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Can you show us evidence in Revelation that clearly describes (1) a rapture of the Church, (2) immediately followed by followed by 7 years tribulation (or any trib), (3) immediately followed by a further coming of Christ? Jerry Kelso conceded: Iamlamad admits: He continues: He adds...

Here is another discussion i had a couple of years ago on another end-time forum. This is typical of Pretrib responses on this subject. They show how bereft Pretrib is of biblical support. Can you show me one single proof-text to support your belief of a rapture of the Church, followed by 7...

It is called projection. They are so vicious, cruel and brutish in their interactions. Notably: they all run for the hills when I expose their venom.

You throw limp arguments on the table and then run, knowing that they are untenable. I actually thought this one was actually abandoned by Pretribs and then you regurgitate it. Revelation 4:1-2 has absolutely nothing to do with a secret rapture. In fact, note what it actually says and how it...

Yea right! When a literal application doesn't fit what you have been taught you spiritualize it away.

The second coming brings a close to the day of salvation. Repeated Scripture shows that now is the only day of salvation. After showing us the destruction of this earth, the works that are in it, the heavens, the elements when Jesus comes, and after describing the longsuffering of God in the...

Here is the venom you get when you challenge Pretrib on this board. There is particular viciousness with engaging with most Pretribs online. They do not take kindly to their views being challenged. There are a few exceptions like @Douggg, @Marilyn C and @William Barton. To engage with most...

Bro, was the king of Tyrus ever perfect? Was he an angel of God?

Not so. You will not address the obvious. Your avoidance has been shown through the thread. When you are arguing truth, you do not typically avoid. Likeneing you to a Pretribber was not meant to slander you. It was a joke. I take it back if you took it that way.

I have repeatedly, and you have repeatedly avoided it. You would make a good Pretribber. LOL.

Also: I Corinthians 6:9-10: “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor...

Exactly. Good find!

I will try again: The Greek word parousia appears 24 times in the New Testament. It is rendered “coming” in 22 passages and “presence” in 2. The word can be interpreted coming, arrival or presence and simply expresses in the Greek what it implies in the English. The word parousia is mostly...

If Premils would simply compare Zech 14 to Rev 20 they would see that they do not corroborate each other. It shows how bereft Premil is of corroboration.

Not true! Heb 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation." As you can see: there is no tribulation period after this climatic coming. This is the end. There's no third coming here. That is...

You have shown nothing because you have nothing, and your pattern is avoidance. When I press you to reveal your proof-texts you say things like: i have showed you it many times. This is a lie. This is deception, yet you refuse to apologize, and obviously do not feel any conviction. This is...

The passages on the tri-unity are there in one passage and clear. Pretrib has nothing but nothingness. Their proof-texts prove nothing. 1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Luke 3:21-23 21 Now when all the...

LOL. So, it proves nothing! LOL. Talk about scraping the barrel. Welcome to Pretrib!!! Nothing + nothing + nothing + nothing + nothing = nothing! You sum Pretrib up better than I could ever.

Again, you avoid every point and just promote your teaching. Address the rebuttal. What are you scared of?

What does that prove?