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Where is your rapture in Revelation?

Please show where it says they go to heaven there in either of those? Please show a trib following the rapture in 1Thessalonians 4:13-18?

Pretribbers are incapable of proving what they have been taught. That is why they get very defensive when challenged. That is why they get very personal when challenged. That is why they resort to ad hominem when challenged. That is why they run for the exits when their theory is exposed. Their...

This is recaps. You have nothing else in God's Book that show a tribulation after the rapture - nothing. Pretrib is a non-corroborated opinion.

Projection! This perfectly describes yourself and most Pretribbers who engage here.

I can always tell when Pretribbers are conceding defeat and are ready to run - this!

What are you scared of?

Absolutely. Talk about foolish reasoning. They do similar with the supposed non-mention of the word "Church" (singular) between Rev 4 and 19. They hang on their own gallows.

But Revelation is a number of recaps all finishing with the end of the world and the destruction of the wicked. Revelation 14:14-20 is another camera view of the one final future coming of Christ.

What does "sudden" mean? Sudden!!! There is no space for your imaginary future trib after the one and only destructive and climatic coming of Christ. And, according to the text, not the Left Behind novels, no one escapes His return, like Noah's world and the city of Sodom. This demolishes Pretrib.

One of the hardest aspect of living in these last days is that the most active and intense part of the battle cannot be seen by human eye. It is in the heavenlies. Ephesians 6:12 tells us: “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the...

Yea, right! Anyone who disagrees with you is divisive and foolish. Seriously? Why not admit you have swallowed extra-biblical teaching that contradicts God's Book?

I am presenting Scripture and you are hurling ad hominem and false accusations. You have nothing of biblical value to bring to the table! Checkmate!

Are angels physical and visible?

More avoidance. You cannot address the sacred text. You cannot accept it. You cannot therefore embrace it. The only other option you have now is to run. Your ramblings and avoidance are only advancing the Amillennialist case. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-5:7 says: “we which are alive and remain unto...

Revelation 10:5-7 says of the Second Advent and the concluding last trumpet, “And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the...

Where is the Pretrib rapture of the Church, followed by your 7 year tribulation, followed by a 3rd coming? 1 Thessalonians 4:15-5:7 says: “we which are alive and remain unto the coming [Gr. parousia] of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from...

According to the inspired text, the destruction is sudden, wholesale, and none escape. You disagree. You reject the sacred text. Your fight is with God not me.

I address every question. You avoid every question. Every page on this thread reveals that. You will see Pretribbers cannot show what they believe with one single Scripture or refute what they do not believe. Their theory is in pieces.

1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:9 says: “if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming [Gr. parousia] of the Lord shall not prevent them...