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    They deny the Saving Efficacy of the Death of Christ !

    THE WORK OF CHRIST Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him. Isaiah 62:11 When I was a young man, the religious tradition in which I was raised spoke of...
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    They deny the Saving Efficacy of the Death of Christ !

    Christ’s Death Actually Saves If the Lord Jesus died for absolutely everybody, then why are not all actually saved? Romans 6 makes it clear that those who are united to Christ in His death are dead to sin (6-7) and “alive unto God” (11), and will be raised bodily to glory (5). But many spend...
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    "True" Israel?

    The Old Testament Saints are part of Christ Body the Church, or they will not partake of the resurrection in the Last day which they had an eye to. Christ is the firstfruits 1 Cor 15:12-23 12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no...
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    "True" Israel?

    I'm going to clarify something. National ethnic Israel was God's people while under the old covenant and it was by national covenant. However within that national covenant Israel was a remnant Israel the spiritual body of Christ, God's people He foreknew. That Israel will be conformed to the...
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Jesus Christ died for Chosen sinners, His Bride, according to Gods predestination Acts 2:23 Him[Christ, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: He was slain in predestination from the foundation of the...
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Fact about Gods predestination: The eventual goal of God in predestination is His Glory in Christ—note the words “my counsel, my pleasure”. His counsel from before the world was made was to glorify Himself as God in Christ. To exalt and glorify his dear Son in the salvation of chosen sinners...
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Doesnt matter.
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Doesnt matter, mans nature is the same in all men by nature, his desires are for the fulfilling of the flesh not God. Jesus could say that about and to anyone at any time and place if they are unregenerate.
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Yes it is scriptural
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    He predestinated/ chose them to believe before He created them.
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Lol maybe you don't understand, they are regular natural human beings. Whether pharisee or non-pharisee, all have same fallen nature by birth, which nature has no desire for God, Heres our desires by nature, jew or gentiles, black or white, pharisee or non-pharisee Eph 2:2-3 2 Wherein in time...
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Yes it is, the beloved of God and chosen
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Thats because they couldnt have the desire. Like a lion cant have a desire for an apple, its not his nature to desire fruit
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Four things that concur, work together to the Predestinated according to scripture Truth Rom 8:29-30 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he...
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    False, they that were chosen first by God were chosen to believe the Gospel which calls them 2 Thess 2:13-14 13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit...
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Thats only possible after one is born of God Jn 8:43,47 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. Now to be of God is to be saved, born of God
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    John Gill writing on Eph 1:5 predestination says:
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Read the post I'm sharing my understanding
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Predestination is grounded in God alone and its #1 Unto Adoption # 2 Why, because it pleased Him #3 Its to the Praise of His Glory Eph 1:5-6 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the...
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    Doctrine of Predestination

    Predestination is the sovereign, eternal, immutable, unalterable purpose of God almighty, by which he ordained and ordered, according to his own will and good pleasure, all things that come to pass in time. Predestination is God’s purpose. Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together...