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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    All unbelievers are DEAD, in fact they are the walking dead, having the appearance of being alive, but they are dead. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%208%3A21%2D23&version=NKJV 21 Then another of His disciples said to Him, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.” 22...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Don't mix up the judgments... Believers do not come under judgment, they are not subject to the second death. Yes all believers are judged, bit their is not judgment of life or death for them as they all have passed from death into life.... All unbelievers abide in death NKJV “Most assuredly...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Jesus teaches the exact same thing in John 5 28 Marvel not at this; for the hour is coming in which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice 29 and shall come forth — they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    When Christ comes a second time, that wrath of God is manifested at the judgment Unbelievers don't escape judgment, only believers do, and only they inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 15 and the resurrection 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Sure, mortal christians survive the 2nd coming, but don't by your interpretation of scripture create another contradiction of scripture, example in 2 Thess 1. If your doctrine does that, then toss it out. John 3 34 For He whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God, for God giveth not the...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    v6-10 describes what happens at the second coming of Christ Anyone who is not a believer, is destroyed. Please review for yourself the scripture here, plain as the day is long. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians%201&version=KJ21 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timothy...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Even though the kingdom was His 'birthright'. HE earned it by His works, He was obedient to God the Father unto His own death. Titus 2:13 looking for that blessed hope and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ...
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    The First Resurrection

    Yes, when Christ comes again is the ressurection and the judgment of all. Then we get the New Earth Peter writes “Where is the promise of His coming? The Apostle Peter tells us Jesus is coming again a second time, the age to come will be the age of the resurrection and restoration of all...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I think the restrainer could be Archangel Michael, whose job from God in scripture is to contend with Satan. Jude 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke...
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    The First Resurrection

    Acts 3 20 Then He shall send Jesus Christ, who before was preached unto you, 21 whom Heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began. The times of restitution of all things, which God hath...
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    The First Resurrection

    Hebrews 9, Christ is currently in the holy places seated at the Father's right hand.... This is where He is until He comes a second time. 24 For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into Heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Nope because when Jesus comes is the eternal judgment of the sheep and goats, righteous and unrighteous 41 “Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting...
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    The First Resurrection

    All the scriptures which contain 'cloud', and in that you can see the divine pattern of God that He uses to show men that He is Heavenly. https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?qs_version=KJ21&quicksearch=cloud&begin=47&end=73&resultspp=25 Revelation 1:7 Behold, He cometh with clouds, and...
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    The First Resurrection

    When He comes again a second time, He comes with clouds, just as was shown to the apostles when He ascended Revelation 1:7 Behold, He cometh with clouds, and every eye shall see Him, and they also who pierced Him; and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so. Amen. Mark...
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    The First Resurrection

    And that is what the angels say, for further confirmation! https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%201&version=KJ21 In the former treatise, O Theophilus, I have given an account of all that Jesus began both to do and teach 2 until the day in which He was taken up, after He had given...
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    The First Resurrection

    It is just a further explaining of the same rapture event, not a seperate rapture....How many raptures? How many gatherings? There is only ONE... One coming of Christ yet to come, and One gathering to Him, there is nothing else...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Daniel 7 is relevant here, v25 through v27 are still future too. Demons and Satan (as well as the children of the devil) are still in rebellion against God and the resurrected Christ.. 27 Then the kingdom and dominion, And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, Shall be given to...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Jesus explains much of when He returns in Mark 13 v27 is the rapture, the gathering to Him, happens after the tribulation and after the evil 'antichrist', false prophet who works wonders and miracles to deceive if possible the elect of God....v22 And as He went out of the temple, one of His...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Well, you could physically die before it happens as a way of escape... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2057&version=KJ21 The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart; and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to...
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    The First Resurrection

    v24-27 is the rapture, and it is after the great tribulation, and after the false antichrist prophet who shows signs and wonders to deceive the deceivable. Jesus teaches no other gathering of HIS elect believing people. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2013&version=KJ21 21...