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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    One called to be a teacher of biblical doctrine is equipped to defend from the Bible the doctrine they espouse. You have repeatedly now failed to defend or prove that eternal life in Christ is not really eternal, (as you believe), even though the Bible is abundantly clear that Christ does not...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    I understand! I've planted, another may water, and if it be the will of God your understanding shall be increased that you might be able to one day give an answer from the Word of God for how the life we receive when we have been born again of Christ's Spirit is ETERNAL LIFE that is dependent...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    Show me this sin that a born-again believer can commit to cast them away from God? Born again believers HAVE ETERNAL LIFE!
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    You haven't shown me a single verse that tells us our eternal life isn't really eternal. Why? It appears that you believe the eternal life Christ has promised every born-again believer can only be ours if we keep ourselves pure and undefiled by sin! In this I rest my case against your...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    Why the warnings, what is the present danger? Show me a single verse that tells us eternal life we have through Christ when we have been born again is NOT really ETERNAL life! If the eternal life we have received through Christ can be lost, Christ would not have promised the life we receive in...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    No I did NOT! That's what you say I said! Why do you not answer the question that I've asked rather than trying to twist what I actually said? Please try to discern the difference between asking a question and making a statement. Here again is my question: "If sin committed by a born-again...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    Again, I am NOT saying it's okay for born again Christians to willfully commit sin against God. When we have known and entered the Kingdom of God we are eternally secure through the Spirit of Christ in us. But do not forget the admonition of the Lord, telling us to keep ourselves from sin...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    Where in my replies have I ever said or even given the impression that Christians have a license to knowingly commit sin? "If sin committed by a born-again Christian can cast them out of the Kingdom of God, who then can be saved? You haven't answered the question! Instead, you try to...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    If you have this desire within your heart to knowingly sin against God, then you need to examine your own heart! The desire of the heart of a born again believer is to NOT sin, for it is our desire to please God. Having a desire to knowingly commit sin before one is born again is the natural...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    Are the words of Isaiah directed toward faithful saints of Old, or is the warning of God Isaiah was given to speak directed to those who are "separated you from your God"? Believers from both Old and New Covenant "have been reconciled" (past tense) through Christ. Romans 5:10 (KJV) For if...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    The problem comes from trying to make water baptism a pre-requisite for salvation. It is not! Water baptism, like circumcision of Old is an outward sign of belonging to the Covenant people of God OUTWARDLY, not always INWARDLY! That's why it's wrong to define water baptism as an outward sign...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    Doesn't sound like a born-again Christian is cast out of the Kingdom of God through sin. Sounds more like one who professes to have been born again but does not have the Holy Spirit Who has given eternal life that shall never be lost because the Spirit of Christ shall be with whosoever has been...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    If sin committed by a born-again Christian can cast them out of the Kingdom of God, who then can be saved?
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    I would say both. And would not argue against baptism of the Holy Spirit, which is what baptism by water signifies. Water baptism, like circumcision of Old are signs given the Covenant body by God to indicate being one with Christ. That does not mean that all who have been baptized are in fact...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    The contention in the church in Corinth wasn't over baptism. The contention according to them which were of the house of Chole was about which of the apostles they should be following. Some said they were of Paul, others of Apollos, or of Cephas, or of Christ. 1Co 1:11 For it hath been...
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    Jesus Kingdom a thousand years, then comes the Father Kingdom

    There is only ONE Kingdom of God! It's the Kingdom Christ ushered in when He came to earth a man. Christ proves the Kingdom of God had come with Him when He cast out devils/demons. Luke 11:20 (KJV) But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon...
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    Jesus Kingdom a thousand years, then comes the Father Kingdom

    Are you talking about the little season after Satan is loosed when the seventh angel begins to sound that time given this earth whereby man might be saved shall be no longer? Re 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years...
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    If we could we would NOT need the Saviour.
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    Young rich ruler not saved, why ?

    Even if they perfectly kept the Old Covenantal Mosaic Laws, only those who had faith in the promise of Messiah who was to come are eternally saved. Keeping the Laws only cleansed outwardly, but it could do nothing for the conscience. To be inwardly cleansed Old Covenant saints believed the...
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    Young rich ruler not saved, why ?

    People of faith before Christ came to earth a man were saved by Christ even though they lived only through the promise of His coming. It is by grace that we are saved through faith in Christ. They possessed faith to believe on Him in the same way Abraham did. They heard of Him (gospel) who...