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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    I have no desire to continue in a discussion that is clearly becoming repetitive. I don't believe you will receive anything that goes against what you have been taught.
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    When Joseph heard that Mary was with child, even though he no doubt loved her, he had no way of knowing the child at that moment was the Holy child the prophets foretell would be born from the womb of a virgin. It wasn't until AFTER the angel of God appeared to him in a dream that Joseph...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    She would have known this even before the angel, Gabriel told her. Mary, being a Jew would have known the prophecy of the Messiah foretold to come. And as I've already shown you, Isaiah's prophecy specifically says He will be born of a virgin.
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    If Mary were thinking of her life beyond the birth of the Christ child, why would she not believe that martial life for she and Joseph would be a normal relationship and she would be blessed by God with more children, because children are a heritage from God, a blessing. Why would God deny this...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    It's not the when, but the how that Mary asks about. Mary asked the question in verse 34 in reference to what Gabriel told her. She wants to know how she can give birth as a virgin, (as the prophet foretells) and "conceive in thy womb" also. Mary was not slow to learn, she understood natural...
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    Of Harvests and barns and gathering the people to Him, the products of the land

    It's a major waste of time to reply to opinions without any verification from the Bible. Since you mention Zech 14, this prophecy is fulfilled with the first coming of Christ to earth a man. Why are you promoting lies without giving a single proof text for how I have lied? This is a Bible...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    Exactly! Mary, like every other healthy, Jewish young virgin would have known and believed what is written. Psalm 127:3 (KJV) Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. It's only a tension you're trying to force. From what Mary learned from Gabriel...
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    Of Harvests and barns and gathering the people to Him, the products of the land

    Christ is ruling from Jerusalem NOW! And born-again believers are reigning with Him NOW through His Spirit in us. Christ has been ruling and reigning from heaven since He ascended to heaven after He was resurrected from the grave. You wrongly assume, probably have been taught, that Christ...
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    Of Harvests and barns and gathering the people to Him, the products of the land

    This reads doctrine you have been taught INTO the Bible, because it is NOT found WITHIN the Bible. Where will Jesus be ruling for one thousand more years, since when He returns this earth and everything on it shall be burned up? Then there will be new heavens and a new earth, not for a mere...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    Mary asks how after hearing she, being a virgin shall be found with a child in her womb, a son she shall call Jesus AFTER the angel tells her "thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS." After this the angel says to her "The Holy Ghost shall come upon...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    No, you misunderstand my position. Once Mary learned she would be the mother of the Son of God through the Holy Spirit, she only desired to know how this supernatural impregnation would come to pass. Because the normal way could not come through the Holy Spirit since the Spirit has not flesh &...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    1. Because Mary knew that conception could not normally occur without copulation between man and woman. 2. Gabriel replies in a manner that we as well as Mary might know the child conceived in her womb was miraculous proof the child is the Son of God. That the prophesy would come to pass...
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    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    This is when believers have been born again through the Spirit of Christ. It is when we spiritually have part in Christ, Who is the "first resurrection." I agree this happens in life before we die, when we have part in the first resurrection partaking of Christ's resurrection life, our eternal...
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    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    The martyred saints died possessing ETERNAL life. Why would saints faithful unto death need to come to life AGAIN since the life they have in Christ is ETERNAL? The martyred souls did not come to life AGAIN! Death took their mortal body, but death could not take their life. They were NOT...
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    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    Both resurrections in Rev 20 pertain to being physically resurrected in body of flesh from the grave. The first resurrection pertains to the bodily resurrection of Christ from the grave, and the other, the bodily resurrection of ALL the DEAD from the graves to stand before God to give account...
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    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    This is not the second coming of Christ physically, rather it shows Christ spiritually sending His Spirit to whosoever shall be born again. It is through His Spirit in us that Christ says, "I will come to you."
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    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    Some of the first century disciples of Christ who were standing there did not die before seeing, not through physical sight, but through knowledge; understanding and also believing Christ who says evidence the Kingdom of God has come as He cast out devils/demons. These first disciples of Christ...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    Sadly, GG, when it comes to the doctrine of eternal security through the righteousness of Christ your silence is noted.
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    I will not, no, I cannot give affirmations to posts that say our salvation depends on our obedience! Why? Because this is NOT truth! The reason you choose to stop this conversation with me is because you cannot prove that eternal life we possess when we have been born again is NOT really...
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    WATER BAPTISM CAUSES DIVISIONS

    Who will obey Him?