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Perhaps! However, I believe it's more ignorant to NOT learn by experience! Experience has taught me that as a Christian I am to honor God in all things. Experience has taught me it's better to be silent than it is to engage in discussions that become belittling and slanderous and dishonor...

I've never said evil was good! The Bible says that God uses evil to bring about good! Is that too difficult for you? Man sees only how evil brings about destruction. What we don't see is how God providentially works even through evil to bring about good. Can you not understand how God...

I agree, which is why I decided simply ignore in this thread those who have a habit of turning this thread into arguing through slander. This is not really true. Because God tells His prophet Isaiah that He creates darkness and evil. Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) I form the light, and create...

You seem to be very confused! It is not I who says Satan is from the beginning EVIL! It is plainly written in the Word of God. You can believe what is written or continue in denial being led by what you have been taught and have not learned from the Bible.

I present a picture of Satan as the Bible defines him. It is the Bible, not I that tells us from the beginning Satan is a murderer and liar. Yet you insist he was once good? The Bible NEVER gives the view that Satan was once good until he fell. That doctrinal error has been promoted and...

This is the type of question one comes to expect from frustrated immature folks. When one is shown the doctrine, they support and defend is not supported from the Bible, but is being read into the Bible, they cannot attack the Bible, so they attack the messenger.

Why do you ask? Do you?

Yes, many translations have translated "heavens". I don't find a problem with either.

No, this statement is not referring to Satan, but to a king under influence and power of his father, the Devil! The lamentation is directed to the prince/king, not an evil spirit. You will not find even the slightest hint the evil spirit; Satan was ever anointed. Where in the passage is the...

That's rich! Slander with a good laugh. :gd I understand why you cannot prove from the Bible my rebuttal is not truth. To do so would make you look foolish, and that is what you're scared of.

How would you know since you appear not to know what cherub/cherubim is or how it is defined? All one has to do is read the creation account to understand how the serpent/Satan from the beginning of creation of mankind is a murderer and a liar. God calls him a murderer and a liar because both...

Prove my rebuttal is false, what are you scared of?

You're not making sense! If the description reflects man, how is it not specifically mankind? It makes even less sense to argue the lamentation to be spoken to king Tyrus is about what shall befall the evil spirit called Satan??? A cherub is NOT a supernatural being, that too is illogical and...

The error that needs to be put to bed is you believing Satan was a good angel of God until he rebelled against God and became evil. It wouldn't make much sense for God to tell His prophet to speak these words to the fallen king of Tyre if he were not alive to hear what the prophet has to say...

No, it shows mankind, which is the entire human race, ALL the natural seed of Adam was created blameless until wickedness was found in man. King Tyrus, belonging to mankind, like Adam in the beginning was created blameless, but like Adam, so too, king Tyrus, became wicked. How does the fact...

The human king is operating under the power and influence of Satan. In the same manner we see Satan operated in the minds and hearts of man (Adam & Eve) at creation. Satan is the same throughout time given this earth whereby mankind might be eternally saved. It is not Satan, but mankind that was...

Please see my edited reply to you above #63. Reposting #53 The human king is operating under the power and influence of Satan. In the same manner we see Satan operated in the minds and hearts of man (Adam & Eve) at creation. Satan is the same throughout time given this earth whereby mankind...

Genesis 1:24-25 (KJV) And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon...

I understand your frustration! I would be frustrated also if I supported and promoted a false doctrine. It is very frustrating trying to prove the Bible says Satan was good until he disobeyed God and became evil, because the Bible tells us the exact opposite. Especially when the Bible very...

Yes, you're right! Because the Bible says nothing about the serpent in Eden being anything other than adversarial from the beginning! At creation he is more subtil (cunning & crafty) and allowed to tempt Eve, who God created without understanding of good or evil. Nothing written in the Bible...