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Shows your disregard for the Vine doing its responsibility, and the Vine is Christ.

It is God who Justifies His Elect ! Rom 8:33 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. This fact alone in and of itself is enough to declare all of God's Elect Justified by Him. Whenever the scripture mentions Justification, its restricted to His...

As for Eternal Justification ! As for Eternal Justification it is contemporaneous with Eternal Election. According to scripture when did Election appear in the Purpose and Mind of God ? It was before the foundation of the world, by His own Eternal Choice of them in Christ Eph 1:4 4 According...

Its the vines responsibility to make fruit, and Jesus is the True Vine, and you have Him losing branches. You probably would blame Him as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep in losing some of His Sheep He is responsible for as well

Its sad you teach Jesus failed in His Vine responsibility to make His branches fruitful

Thats not the issue here.

More on Eternal Justification ! In the Eternal Justification of God's Elect, it lies in this, there has been from everlasting [Ps103:17] the immutable counsel of God, that He would not Impute Sin, nor Punish sin, nor bring under condemnation of His Law, hence in this lies their Justification...

@GodsGrace Yes Jesus is the Vine and His responsibility to cause the branches in Him to be fruitful, so if branches in Him are not fruitful and are cast away lost, that's His fault , for the branches had no ability to be produce fruit. So you need to explain to us why Jesus the True Vine lost...

The Gospel teaches Justification in Eternity !3 Why its [Justification before God by the Divine Purpose] a done deal by His Purpose in and of itself. That by it He viewed the slaying of Christ for the sins of His People as a done deal. It typed and pictured to how Abraham did in purpose...

Your view makes the Vine look bad, its the Vines responsibility to produce the fruit question: answer...

@GodsGrace Then that makes Christ culpable, He is responsible as the vine to cause the fruitfulness. The branches cant bear fruit of themselves, the life is in the root, the vine. So you may need to think through what you saying. Jesus as the Vine/Root said without Him they could do nothing Jn...

The Gospel teaches Justification in Eternity !2 You see, in the Mind and Purpose of God, Christ is the Lamb of God already slain from the foundation of the world Rev 13:8 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain...

Its not about me, but what God said and does. Jer 32:40

He died for the world of sinners that God has forgiven for His Name's sake, if your sins aren't forgiven, He didnt die for you Remember Eph 4:32 Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. And this is written...

@Taken Sorry not correct, nothing in scripture about an opportunity to become made perfect, instead, Christs Offering of Himself for the sins of the elect, that offering made them perfected forever Heb 10:14-17 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15...

God forgives sinners He Christ died for, for Christs Sake, because He did the work of satisfying Justice, its His Reward to Christ to forgive all sinners Christ died for. Again Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath...

@Behold Then Christ didn't die for that person or persons, for God forgives everyones sins whom Christ died for, for Christs Sake alone Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. 1 Jn 2:12 12 I write unto...

It doesnt matter what something sounds like to you friend. Whats the promise Jer 32:40 40 And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.

Okay, I believe that's going to be the case. I believe the bible teaches it. 2 Thess 1 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 2 Thess 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey...

The translation is fine, did you understand what I stated.