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I have. I just do not see that.

If we look closer at this passage we learn, “in that night (when He shall Come) there shall be two in one bed; the one shall be paraleemftheésetai (or) taken, and the other shall be afetheésetai (or) left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be paraleemftheésetai (or) taken, and...

This was heaven's spiritual king, representing a spiritual kingdom. He reigns today over His enemies on high since His coronation.

What? You are supporting your faulty opinion of Revelation 19 with your faulty opinion of Revelation 19? LOL. Typical! That shows us you have zero corroboration. Just as i predicted!!!

Show me one of your alleged 22 supporting texts of your opinion of Rev 19 that you say supports a 3rd coming of Jesus that mention a white horse?

No. LOL. Avoidance is your MO. You have been unable to show a Pretrib rapture in Rev or anywhere else. Readers can check back on this thread and see how you have avoided this like the plague. We all know it is not there, including you.

Can you show me any clear Scripture that shows a rapture of the Church before a tribulation period?

Matthew 24:21 makes no mention of a rapture 1st. Where is it? Where in 1 Thessalonians 4 does it show a rapture of the church followed by a tribulation period followed by a 3rd coming? Where does it even show a rapture of the church followed by a tribulation period?

So, is there also a rapture in Revelation 11:12, as you previously claimed?

Revelation 14:4-16 shows the rescue of God's elect and the destruction of the wicked. I don't know how you can get your prolonged tribulation period into that. Is one of several recaps in revelation, show on the climatic return of the Lord Jesus Christ. What we are looking at is different camera...

Yes, any words or any description of the same after the rapture. Christ said Himself, in Matthew 24:29-31, “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall...

Can you show me any clear Scripture that shows a rapture of the Church before a tribulation period?

If the day of the Lord in 1 Thessalonians 5:3 relates to a third coming, as most Pretribbers argue, and they relate this to the event of Revelation 19, then why is this describing the wicked, who are experiencing the 7 years tribulation, as declaring “Peace and safety”? Surely this is a period...

Thank you for at least explaining that there is no Pretrib rapture in Revelation. So, now that we know that, it seems like 1 Thessalonians 4 is your only rapture Scripture in the whole of the Bible. Are you admitting you have no corroboration for your opinion of 1 Thessalonians 4 in the rest of...

Where does it teach that in God's Word? When does that happen?

I honestly do not know what you believe. Clearly you are Pretrib. But there is such a diverse array of Pretrib views out there today that are opposed to each other that it is hard to grasp what each individual Pretribber holds to. That is why I ask. Before I engage with a Pretrib poster i strive...

Op Note It is clear that Pretribbers have no answer to the climactic coming of Christ scriptural arguments presented. They are manifestly watertight. This is nothing new. The Scriptures are crystal clear on the subject. I demonstrated in the Op: "Whatever angle you look up Pretrib, it is...

Another one bites the dust! Pretribs have no answer to the words of Christ and Scripture.

Where is the rapture "for believers" in Scripture? Where is the rapture "for unbelievers" in Scripture? Where is the rapture "for believers" in Revelation? Where is the rapture "for unbelievers" in Revelation?

You butcher the text and refuse to quote the whole context in order to justify your error. That sums up Pretrib. The words of Jesus demolish what you have been taught. Jesus says in Matthew 24:35-41: “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour...