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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Yes. It caught them unexpected. It will catch all the wicked the same when Jesus comes. That is the import. Jesus said in Luke 17:24-34: “For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    What? Read the text! Jesus says in Matthew 24:35-41: “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming [Gr. parousia] of the Son of...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    Stop avoiding!!! Read the Op.
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    Pretrib fallacies

    I have simply called out your avoidance and ad hominem. As for you, your rhetoric is vicious and venomous. Sadly, you are not convicted about it: Talk about "The pot calling the kettle black."
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    Pretrib fallacies

    Where is the rapture "for believers" in Scripture? Where is the rapture "for unbelievers" in Scripture? Where is the rapture "for believers" in Revelation? Where is the rapture "for unbelievers" in Revelation?
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    Pretrib fallacies

    Jesus says in Matthew 24:35-41: “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming [Gr. parousia] of the Son of man be. For as in the...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    Lol. You obviously have a lot to hide. I totally understand. It goes with having zero Scripture to support your doctrine. Your avoidance supports my thesis. No Pretrib can address or rebut it. If you had Scripture you would give it. But you have nothing. The strongest Pretrib traits are...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    You sound very scared! It feels like you are out of your depth.
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    Pretrib fallacies

    (1) You either do not know what you believe (thus your failure to support your beliefs), or (2) you do know what you believe but do not know your Bible, or (3) you are ashamed of Pretrib (which i can understand).
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    Pretrib fallacies

    LOL. I am simply asking basic inoffensive questions and Pretribbers are ducking around them like the plague. You interpret that as treating "everybody the same bad way." Wow! What are you trying to hide? Are you ashamed of what you believe? It seems like it.
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    Pretrib fallacies

    LOL. What are you scared of? Do you believe in a rapture of the Church before a trib? Do you believe in a 7 yr trib? Do you believe in a third coming of Jesus? If so: Show me where these are in Scripture? Show me where these are in Rev? You Pretribbers are all over the place. Not 2 of you...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    Show me the rapture of the Church in Rev? Show me the rapture of the Church in the rest of Scripture?
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    Pretrib fallacies

    You are avoiding my questions. So, do you believe in a rapture of the Church before a trib? Do you believe in a 7 yr trib? Do you believe in a third coming of Jesus? If so: Show me where these are in Scripture? Show me where these are in Rev?
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    Pretrib fallacies

    Ok. Got it. But, can you answer my question? Where are your 2 raptures in Rev?
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    Pretrib fallacies

    Show me these 2 raptures in Rev?
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    Pretrib fallacies

    Where is a tribulation period mentioned after the rapture in John 14:2-3 Where is a tribulation period mentioned after the rapture in 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 Where is a tribulation period mentioned after the rapture in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 Where is a tribulation period mentioned after the...
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    Pretrib fallacies

    You guys make it up as you go. You make Revelation say whatever you want. You have absolutely nothing to support your opinions in the rest of Scripture. That is why you guys avoid the simple questions. To answer them honestly would demolish your doctrine.
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Scripture seems to be your biggest enemy. You avoid it like the plague. No wonder you are venomous towards those who present it.
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    Pretrib fallacies

    Stop avoiding. Quote each passage and show me the tribulation after the rapture. I will take your avoidance as proof you have nothing
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Avoidance, avoidance, avoidance!!! Your only proof text demolishes what you have been taught. You have nothing in God's Book. Pretrib is an alarming deception.