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  1. The Light

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    There is a basket of baseballs. You tell your youngest son to go through the basket of baseballs and separate them. Find all the ones with a blue dot on them and take them to the city park baseball field. The rest leave in the basket and put them on the front porch. When your youngest son...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    I wish it were true, but facts don't to seem to matter much around here. If you show me something in scripture that proves me wrong, that is a plus for me. I would rather be wrong and learn something than cling to a false belief. There is lots of clinging around here despite the facts.
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    This is the rapture of the Church and it happens before the great tribulation. This is when the Lord Himself comes for His bride in an hour that you think not. This is the gathering from heaven and earth when the Lord sends His angels to gather the Elect at the end of the age which occurs at...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    If this is true, then why does Daniel 12 say that MANY that sleep in the dust of the earth shall be raised. Daniel 12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    You are correct. Actually 1 Thess 4.16-17, 1 Cor 15.51-52 are also at a different time from each other. 1 Thes 4:16-17 is the rapture of the Church. It will happen before the great tribulation when the Lord Himself comes for His bride. 1 Cor 15:51-52 is the gathering from heaven and earth. It...
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    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    You forgot to add the harvests. Pentecost- The dead in Christ rise. The spring barley harvest. Feast of New Wine - When the Spirit was sent. Likely when the alive that remain are raptured. The summer wheat harvest. Feast of Trumpets - The rapture of the 12 tribes. The gathering from heaven and...
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    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    The last day is the end of the age. The last day occurs at the 6th seal. This is when Jewish Christian believers are raised from the dead. This is when many of the people of Daniel are raised and alive believer are raptured. Daniel 12 1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince...
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    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Okay. What hemisphere is Israel in? That should clear things up.
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    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Sure, you can disagree. However, you are unable to provide any scripture that proves I am wrong. That's because what I am saying agrees with scripture. I get these short "I disagree" comments all the time. But there is never any scripture to prove the disagreement.
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    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    I don't think this is true because the Church, the alive that remain, are raptured in the summer. This is the summer wheat harvest. After the Church is raptured, blindness will be removed from part of Israel. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    How could it David? The seventh trumpet is in the 7th seal. The 6th seal is complete before the 7th seal is opened, so it is totally impossible for the 6th seal to have anything to do with the 7th trumpet. The reason this get taught is because many find it necessary to use a sledgehammer to...
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    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    When we realize that the fig tree has two harvests, there are two folds of sheep, Jacob had two brides we realize there are two raptures. So pretrib is a fact because the Church can escape all the things written in the Olivet Discourse and will be kept from the hour of testing that will come...
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    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    The second rapture happens at the 6th seal. Those raptured will not only avoid the bowls, but they will also avoid the trumpets as both are the wrath of God and are released when the 7th seal is opened.
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    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    I looked and found no verses that say that. This is just something that you want to happen because this is what you think. There is not scriptural proof of this. The text says Jesus comes IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION and then sends His angels to gather the elect. This doesn't work in the...
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    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    2 Peter 2 20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way...
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    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    I understand it perfectly. On the self-same day, Noah, his family and all the animals enter the ark. We know that day is the first day because Noah is told to enter the ark on the first day of the seven. It does not rain for 7 days. No. I am not. The first command Noah was given was to enter...
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    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    World. Pay attention. The Church will be raptured before the great tribulation. Not before the 7 years begin, before the great tribulation. Once the Church is raptured, the world will be in chaos. There will be wars, famines and pestilences along with earthquakes. Many will die as the 4...
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    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    What's the first thing God told Noah. ENTER THE ARK. Genesis 7 And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. How many days does it take for Noah, his family and all the animals to enter the ark? ONE...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    You don't understand what you are reading Truth.
  20. The Light

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    I think you are missing the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal when He sends His angels for a harvest. The righteous go to heaven for the marriage supper and unrighteous are cast into the wrath of God. Here is another view of the rapture that occurs at the 6th seal. Revelation 14 14 And I looked...