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Rev 3 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. All that dwell upon the earth will face the hour of temptation. But I will keep you from the hour of...

Why would you compare 2 Peter 3:10-13 and Revelation 21:1-5 to the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24? Do you not understand that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal and it is a HARVEST? Do you not understand the difference between a harvest and destruction? Here is another...

Why would you bother to quote this? Why would you compare temptation of sin to the Great Tribulation? Always flawed logic.

The Church will escape ALL THESE THINGS that come to pass and STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN. Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

No problem. Revelation 3 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Exactly. Good job. Jesus returns IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION. This occurs at the 6th seal. It is the gathering from heaven and earth. Mark 13 24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall...

Even you yourself said that Jesus returns at the 6th seal. That has nothing to do with the 7th seal as it is not opened until the 6th seal is complete. Jesus will be in heaven with the great multitude when the 7th seal is opened. Ok. I can buy that. However, the things that are written in order...

I don't make things up. I go by what is written. If you look at the verses in Isaiah 34 you should be able to understand that they are talking about events that occur in the 6th seal. You should also be able to determine that the Day of Vengeance is ONE YEAR long. If you are unable to...

Jesus comes at the 6th seal for a harvest. He returns to heaven and brings both folds with Him to heaven for the marriage supper. This is the great multitude in heaven. Then the 7th seal is opened and the angels blow the trumpets and pour the vials releasing Gods wrath. 1st trumpet, 1st vial...

It doesn't work this way, IT CAN'T. It's impossible. Example. There are seven boxes. The first box is opened and a rider on the white horse goes forth conquering and to conquer. Then the second box, third box, fourth, fifth box are all opened. Then the 6th box is opened and Jesus comes for...

I don't know how you draw that conclusion. I have never seen a pretribber or only one post tribber that understands that the wrath of God lasts one year before Jesus returns at armageddon. Yes pretribbers think that the wrath of God is the same thing as the great tribulation. Of course, it is...

The problem with your line of thought is that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. The trumpets and vials are in the 7th seal. What you are saying is incorrect as proven by the Word of God. Revelation 6 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great...

So what are the 1st 6 trumpets?

I'm not sure you understand that the 7th trumpet and 7th vial happen in the same timeframe. I'm not sure you understand that after the 7th trumpet sounds, the kingdoms of our Lord are become the kingdoms of our Lord. That means Armageddon is over. You don't seem to grasp that the coming of...

I just told you that I understand that 1 Thes 5 is talking about the wrath of God and not Satan. I don't care what pre trib says. Does pretrib understand there are two raptures. No. Making an argument against me about things I don't believe, nor claim is nonsense. Where have I said that I...

You can pretend that the following verses are not the wrath of God if you want. I know better as should any believer. Revelation 8 3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all...

Jim needs another trip to prison so he can study some more. There are two raptures, one before the great tribulation and one before the wrath of God for the 12 tribes across the earth, the seed of the woman. Two raptures, two folds, the fig tree has two harvests. Days of Noah and Days of Lot...

Please. Why would you even say this? Surely, you are aware that the Word rapture come from the Latin word rapio. This is a nonsense argument. The dead in Christ rise first. The alive remain.......just as it is written. Uh. No. Jesus come for the dead in Christ first. This is the spring barley...

Just one question. If what you are saying is true, why is Christ coming immediately AFTER the tribulation for Armageddon. If He only comes one time that would be impossible. Negative. All the trumpets and vials are Gods wrath. And yes, the Day of the Lord occurs at the 7th trumpet / 7th vial...

This is totally incorrect and a misrepresentation of what I am saying. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 is GODS WRATH. We are not appointed to GODS WRATH. And yet you have the Church on earth during the wrath of God. As I said. Your argument is nonsense because I am fully aware that it is GODS WRATH that is...