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Honesty is the best policy, in truth. The Holy Spirit was doing the heavy-lifting...it was the Fathers' own (Holy Spirit). It is a part of him, of the same one person. The Holy Spirit is not another Spirit person that is truly holy, besides the Father's Spirit. Here's one rendition of how it...

Really, only one of course

Well, why only the Father's Spirit of course.

What they need now is a clear see-thru enclosure affixed and sealed to the top of the two bins, deigned such where one can only use their left hand placed inside a tube to grasp a pencil for the left side bin and similarly, only use their right hand to grasp a pencil from the right side bin...

Did the Father dictate every word spoken by Jesus? John 14:10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Should we conclude from this that...

Dogs can't operate MRI machines, but catscan.

@Lambano ..digressing a bit for your understanding and for why I reacted so abruptly, the way I did in my post to you... I really reacted to not just the lack of understanding amongst us of the critical definitions for this subject of the elect, it was when you suddenly dropped the bomb in your...

Why were the people at the bar confused by the Spanish southerner? Because he kept talking in Espan-y'all.

Agreed..

Being working for eons alright...killed a lot of homes and gardens in the process, and even installed a mountain or two in the background....

Temptation is always human for today. The act of being deceived goes way beyond temptation, and the elect are not deceived as in derailed from their faith permanently. Getting confused, and caught into strong evil forces are definitely possible for the elect. Again, the definition of...

That is not the proper context, and therefore what followed was a false argument. Clarification on the definition of 'deceived' now might be necessary.

I am moving towards @Carl Emerson Mr. Emerson's view, in what he posted regarding the Elect of God. @St. SteVen .. what is your real point concerning the Elect anyway? Where are going with it? What seems to bother you about them? In post #245, you said: "Everyone is deceived in some aspect."...

I watched a Hindu version of “How I Met Your Mother.” There’s just one episode about the wedding.

"...that our God would count you worthy..." Not another god...

Where do Australian animals go for vacation? Koala Lumpur.

Yes, this would be their overall summary mindset of the two, as it is is also mine. Not of the Son of God who arrived much later to execute the crucial portion of God's salvific plan for the Kingdom of his God and for human eternal life. So why cannot everyone hear then know the same one God...