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  1. ProDeo

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Rev 11 is about the temple to be destroyed and the 3½ years (42 months) are exactly matching history, the siege of Jerusalem started in AD 66, do the math.
  2. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Of course you can be right, we can't imagine how it will be. Only that God's judgements will be right and we will understand His judgements will be right. Also about the new things the Lord might do in afterlife, we have no clue. I think a possible place about outer darkness - Rev 22:15 -...
  3. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    That's so weird, trillion x trillion x trillion of years living in outer darkness, weeping in agony, regrets, begging for mercy with no hope, that's punishment. A lesser punishment, still a punishment.
  4. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    What a nonsense. Thrown into Outer Darkness is punishment, not salvation. To speak with the famous words of Epi, you failed the 5 year old reading skills.
  5. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Outer Darkness is punishment, not salvation.
  6. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Laurina, if you don't mind, first things first, you said those thrown into outer darkness are saved and as Jude 1:13 implies that is everlasting. Meaning away from the presence of the Lord, outer darkness being a place of anguish, heartache, grief, and unspeakable suffering, away from the...
  7. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    CONTEXT Matt 8:5 When he had entered Capernaum, a centurion came forward to him, appealing to him, Matt 8:6 “Lord, my servant is lying paralyzed at home, suffering terribly.” Matt 8:7 And he said to him, “I will come and heal him.” Matt 8:8 But the centurion replied, “Lord, I am not worthy to...
  8. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Reading the context of that verse I believe the children of the kingdom are the unbelieving Jews. John 1:11 He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. You might disagree.
  9. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    I think I will address that later. But for the moment - Always. 1Petr 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 1Petr 1:4 to an...
  10. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Exactly. Where does Scripture state the damned can talk to Abraham ?
  11. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Read about the roots of the Abraham's Bosom on the Wikipedia, it's an invention of man, the Pharisees, it's nowhere in Scripture. The parable of the rich man is in a long series of Jesus preaching against the Pharisees, chapter after chapter. v14 explicitly states the Pharisees were lovers of...
  12. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Aside of the simple math the verse implies on salvation there is another meaning, the measurement in punishment for the lost and rewards for the saved. Better now ? :funlaugh2
  13. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    There is no Abraham's bosom in Scripture, thus parable. Something religious that slipped in during the absent of prophets. If it were real you must believe we all end up into Abraham's bosom when we die, that does not sound Scriptural. Secondly, what is described about hell in the parable comes...
  14. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Remember the context :Broadly: Rev 22:11 Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.” 2 lost 2 saved
  15. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Alright then, Epi reminds me of a classic Reformed / Calvinistic Hell and damnation preacher. It was my first church, I went there after my conversion because my fiance (still my wife) was Reformed and notable her father was an elder, a fine person and sincere Christian. And the church had...
  16. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    So 2 lost, 2 saved.
  17. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Rom 8:38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1...
  18. ProDeo

    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    Any modern believers participating in this thread ? Names ? Maybe a number according to your conviction ?
  19. ProDeo

    Are you guys happy with the recent Iran agreement ending the war?

    I think Trump wants out, but he does not know how.