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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Exactly. The old is gone forever. Stop trying to resurrect it.
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Physical circumcision means nothing in God's economy anymore. It is totally irrelevant. It avails nothing. It is gone forever with the old economy. Stop trying to bring it back. There is only one people of God - the Israel of God - God's elect
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    A core tenet of Dispensationalism is the absolute, and ongoing, distinction between Israel and the Church. Dispensationalists suggest that these two entities describe two different peoples of God, under two separate covenants, who operate on two distinct tracks, function by two divergent...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    The reality is: God is no respecter of persons today (Acts 10:34-35, Romans 2:11, Galatians 2:6, Ephesians 6:9, Colossians 3:25, 1 Peter 1:17). God shows no favoritism in regard to a person’s nationality, color, social status, education, knowledge, family heritage, race, or gender. Basically...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    The Apostle declares in Romans 2:25-29: “For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    LOL. I did. You obviously have a reading issue. It is a spiritual standing. When you consider the meaning of the word “Israel” and how it ultimately finds its fulfillment in Jesus Christ, it forces us to ask, what people, then, today, could possibly meet the criteria and designation of true...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    The terms "circumcision" and “uncircumcision" are spiritualized in the New Testament to differentiate the saved from the lost (irrespective of what broad natural people-group they belong to). "Circumcision" spiritually represents God’s elect regardless of nationality. “Uncircumcision" is...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Scripture spiritualises the terms "Jew," "the circumcision," "Israel," and "children of Abraham" and applies them spiritually to both natural Jew and Gentile who love Jesus in our day. Natural designations are repeatedly shown in the New Testament to mean nothing today. The spiritual...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    There is nothing you can do with this apart from spiritualize it away and render it meaningless. What does citizenship mean? You cannot even tell us what the citizenship of Israel looks like. You cannot even tell us if this is ethnic Israel or spiritual Israel? How about answering these...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    The Bible says we are 'Jews' and we are "the circumcision" today (Romans 2:25-29; Philippians 3:3 and Colossians 2:11). Do you disagree with that?
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    No. You seem to be. You turn one of these experiences into a meaningless metaphor in order to justify the unjustifiable. You are totally incapable of addressing simple biblical questions that exposure position. The reader can look back on every page of our conversations and will see that for...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Dispies cannot seem to understand the spiritual. They are so fixated with the natural, temporal, earthly and physical that they miss the spiritual truth of much of the NT. They're so captivated with the re-introduction of the old covenant that that they miss the fact that the kingdom of God is...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    So what else is a metaphor in this reading? Ephesians 2:10-13 declares, “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Stop avoiding. Explain what this metaphorical citizenship of Israel concept means? Which text/s are you referring to? Are humans part of this metaphorical citizenship of Israel concept? If so, who are they?
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    You unilaterally declare there is no such thing as spiritual Israel (despite the strong evidence to the contrary and without any proof to support your claims) and then render it impossible for us to join such. Can you see the folly of your reasoning? Talk about manipulating Scripture to support...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Ahhh. Basically, what Paul was teaching was meaningless? So we were strangers from a meaningless reality and we have now been brought into a meaningless reality? Are you serious? Even metaphorical language carries real meaning. It seems to me like you are trying to explain away something that...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    So what citizenship of Israel did exist at that time who NT Gentiles joined?
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    This is as clear as mud. You are absolutely ducking around the issue. You seem to be making it up as you go. So the metaphorical concept is the citizenship of Israel. Explain what this metaphorical citizenship of Israel concept means? Which text/s are you referring to? Are humans part of this...
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    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    What metaphorical concept? Explain what this metaphorical concept means? Which text/s are you referring to? Are humans part of this metaphorical concept? If so, who are they?
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    WATCH!

    Show us any Scripture that teaches a rapture of the Church, followed by a tribulation period of any length, followed by a third coming of the Lord?