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I agree. But so many Christians cannot believe what they cannot physically see!

I believe Rev 11 begins with measuring the New Covenant temple/church that Christ came with. From there chapter 11 depicts all that has been and shall continue to come to pass from the beginning of the New Covenant age until the last/seventh trumpet sounds. IOW this chapter covers the whole...

Already spiritually fulfilled. Shall be physically fulfilled when the last/seventh trumpet sounds that time given this earth shall be no longer.

What about the Kingdom given Christ when He ascended to heaven? It was at that moment that Christ received dominion, and glory over all people, and nations which shall not pass away, and shall never be destroyed. Acts 1:9-11 (KJV) And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he...

Exactly! But as I've already said, this is difficult for some and hard to explain to them how the Kingdom NOW is spiritual, not physical.

We understand Christ received a Kingdom that shall never pass away when He ascended to heaven. What is hard to understand and explain is how the Kingdom of God from that moment in time is spiritual and not the physical Kingdom that shall be when Christ comes again when the seventh trumpet...

But how do you prove the mark of the beast is a physical tattoo upon/on/in the skin of mankind? Every man who has been born again has been sealed by the Holy Spirit of Christ. We cannot physically see the Spirit within us, how do you biblically prove the mark that all who worship the beast...

I know this technology exists, however only those who are deceived by the beast receive his mark. Those who are sealed by the Spirit of Christ have victory over the beast and his image and never receive his mark or the number of his name. That means the ability to buy and sell (whatever it...

You assume this represents the mark of the beast? Can you prove this assumption from the Bible?

Why does Revelation tell us it is those who worship the beast and his image that receive the mark 'in' not on their right hand and forehead? How can a mark 'in' the right hand and forehead be visibly seen?

I read the prophesy of Isaiah 24:16-23 as the destruction and 70 year captivity that shall befall Jerusalem by the Babylonians because of their great apostasy and sins against the Almighty God.

Yes, we shall be raised IN power, the power of God. I'm reminded of our fist parents, they too believed that when they ate of the forbidden tree they would not die, but their eyes would be opened knowing good and evil and they would be as a god/God. When our body is raised and changed, we will...

Define "powerful"? I don't find powerful included in what our mortal bodies that shall be raised will be? Glorious yes, in the sense of dignity, honor and praiseworthy, but what do you mean by "powerful"? I only found powerful in three verses of Scripture and none pertain to what man shall be...

Yes, His body that resurrected from the grave was an immortal physical body with the breath of life (spirit) together a living soul. Which is what all who have been born again shall be when the last trumpet sounds and we are changed from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible. We...

Thanks for the discussion, Charlie! Knowing you've published a book with your view on Daniel, I would have been exceedingly surprised if anything I've shown would have changed your mind. But it was worth the effort anyway. Blessings, rwb

Does Paul say "new body"? I don't find that in Scripture? I find Paul saying only that the body shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. The change is that our body though sown mortal and corruptible, shall have put on incorruption and immortality. Paul doesn't say our mortal...

The Bible does not tell us that Daniel was speaking of a real physical destruction of the city and sanctuary, you assume this through extrabiblical sources. Yes, the Jews did SPIRITUALLY destroy the city and temple by committing spiritual abominations against God. Why do you argue for the...

Why do you force another prince who is not Messiah the Prince? There is no introduction of a lesser prince who shall come. The prince who is to come does NOT destroy the city and temple, His (Jews) people do! In the same manner the Jews in the days of Daniel spiritually destroyed the city and...

NO. The Prince who was to come is Messiah the Prince, as well as "He" who shall confirm the Covenant. You're forcing a physical destruction of the city and temple through past history recorded through extrabiblical sources. The prophesy is NOT about what shall become of the nation physically...

The destruction of the city and temple by the people (Jews) of the prince (Christ) who was to come was the reason why the nation was physically destroyed in 70 AD. When Christ came since the nation had already been spiritually destroyed, He said to them, "Behold, your house is left unto...