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    The sons of God

    I think not, but I will listen to your point of view. I know. Lucifer is a Latin word. The word lucifer is not a proper name in the Latin Vulgate and should be translated as "day star". Nimrod is the day star. He is also the king of Babylon being discussed. He is also a man and he is also the...
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    The sons of God

    The verses in Isaiah 14 are talking about the King of Babylon who is Nimrod, who is the DAY STAR.
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    The sons of God

    The verses are not referring to Lucifer who is Satan. There is not an inconsistency as Jesus is the morning star. The translation of Lucifer is incorrect. The root would translate to day star, not morning star.
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    The sons of God

    Those verses are not referring to Lucifer who is Satan.
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    End times. Christians will be like the soldiers of Gideon, around the world (sin in check? lights shining?)

    There are two folds that are taken to heaven. John 10 14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must...
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    End times. Christians will be like the soldiers of Gideon, around the world (sin in check? lights shining?)

    The rapture of the Church will occur before the great tribulation. Apparently, you are unaware that He will come in an hour that your think not. Matthew 24 48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    We are so far apart in what we believe that it makes communication difficult The coming of Jesus in Revelation 14:14 when Jesus remains on a cloud and sends His angels to gather the elect is not when Jesus comes on white horses in Revelation 19. However, after Jesus comes those that remain are...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    There is nothing about any of the trumpets or vials of God wrath in the OD including the 7th trumpet. The OD talks about the great tribulation and the gathering that occurs at the end of the great tribulation. Then the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God begins which is the trumpets and...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Then Jesus comes and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth.......at the 6th seal. This is why there is a great multitude in heaven in Revelation 7. There is a harvest at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. I have explained many times how this is...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    I agree that Rev 14:19 is talking about the same event as Rev 19:15. So in that regard I was incorrect. But the point is, that the coming of Jesus in Revelation 14 is not the coming of Jesus when He returns on white horses in Revelation 19. The righteous are gathered from the earth at the 6th...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    The Word does not say that Jesus is sitting on the throne. The Word say that they want to hide from Him that sitteth on the throne. This is what is happening at the 6th seal. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    I do not have the 144,000 on the earth during the wrath of God. They are first fruits of the second harvest. I also do not have those of the second harvest which occurs at the 6th seal on earth during the wrath of God. Believers are not appointed to wrath. At the end of the age, which is the...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    I just posted one. Isaiah 34:8 and it ties directly to the 6th seal. Period. Isaiah 61 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; Isaiah 63 4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come. All...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Now that's a load of malarky! You want to jump from the 6th seal coming Jesus for a harvest, to the end of the 7th seal which is the 7th trumpet/7th vial. Problem is when Jesus comes for the harvest at the 6th seal, all return to heaven and are the great multitude seen in Revelation 7. Do you...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    It is the day of wrath which is one year long. That is why the day of the Lord's vengeance is the YEAR of recompenses. Isaiah 34 8 For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion. Cherry picking verses? UNRELATED????????????? Yeah, cherry...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    The tribulation, when the dragon is killing Christians and Jews, is over at the 6th seal. Then wrath begins, which is God punishing an evil unbelieving world. This occurs at 7th seal. Armageddon is over at the 7th trumpet / 7th vial. So the tribulation is over at the 6th seal and Armageddon is...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Revelation 14:14-20 is not the same a Revelation 19:11-21. Revelation 14:14-20 occurs at the 6th seal immediately after the tribulation and BEFORE the wrath of God.
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Exactly. There is only ONE second coming. It occurs at the sixth seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. The sun and the moon are not darkened and stars DO NOT fall from heaven, at the end of the 7th seal. It happens at the 6th seal as stated in scripture. John 10 says there...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences Ezekiel 4 6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year