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Let me clarify for you. Those in the nation of Israel are the woman. Those around the world are the seed of the woman. When the dragon goes after the woman, he is going after those in Israel. Those in Israel flee to a place of protection. When the dragon can't get to the woman, he goes after...

Exactly. The pretribulation rapture is prior to the great tribulation. The Church will already be in heaven before this occurs. The great tribulation is the time of Jacobs trouble and is for the 12 tribes. The Church is in heaven already. The great tribulation is for the Jews and has nothing...

Been a while since I have seen someone playing the Coke, soft drink game of the Jews being of the house of Judah. Please quit wasting your time on this type of fruitless argument. Paul called himself a Jew even though he was out of the house of Benjamin.

Thank you for proving my point. There is a difference between the woman and her seed as you have shown.

The Church is raptured before the great tribulation. However, there is no scripture that shows the Church is in heaven before the 7 years begins. Secondly, you know there is a second rapture, and you understand that it is the Jews that are being raptured. This rapture occurs at the 6th seal...

The woman is the Jews that live in national Israel. The seed of the woman are the 12 tribes across the earth. In other words those of the 12 tribes that are not living in the nation of Israel. After the Church is raptured before the great tribulation, part of Israel will have its blindness...

This is not correct. The reason you are missing this is because you fail to recognize that the Great Tribulation is when the beast is killing believers and Jews. The GT is over at the 6th seal and then the 7th seal wrath of God begins.

Right. He will come a second time for those look for Him. It is the Church that is looking for Him. After He comes for the Church, there will be 144,000 first fruits from the twelve tribes. Acceptable first fruits are a guarantee of a harvest. Part of Israel will have its eyes opened when the...

How can Revelation 12 be before the tribulation given this verse? Rev 12 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. Additionally...

Rev 12 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was...

From what I remember, you don't think the feasts of God have anything to do with what is to come. If I am remembering wrong, I apologize.

1 Thes 4 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. The alive that remained will be caught together with them in the clouds.

The alive remain unto the coming of the Lord. If the Lord comes for the dead, why are the alive remaining?

The Word says that when the seal is opened, the event occurs. And that's what's going to happen.

1 Thes 4 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and...

When a seal is actually opened, the event occurs...........And when he opened the third........the event happens. John had a vision of these events. Rev 3 5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on...

This verse is saying that to those who look for Him He will appear time unto salvation. Rapture.

The great tribulation begins when the beast sets up the abomination of Desolation. The great tribulation is when the beast is killing Jews and Christians and many Jews become Christians. The great tribulation is over at the 6th seal and then the 7th seal is opened, and the wrath of God begins.

Exactly. John just saw future events. The seals are not opened so the events have not happened yet. When each seal, which John had a vision of, is actually opened, the event will occur.

Thank you, Davy.