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  1. keithr

    The One [true God]

    Who spoke that?! The Bible says that of all creation only humanity was made in the image, or likeness, of God (James 3:9); nothing else in the physical world is said to be made in the image of God. Paul tells us that Jesus is also the image of God (2 Corinthians 4:4). God is not light, He is...
  2. keithr

    The One [true God]

    That make absolutely no sense at all. o_O There is no logic to saying that a property of part of something is also the property of all of that something, must somehow mean that that something is capable of consciousness. Saying that part of a wire has a property of conducting electricity and...
  3. keithr

    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    No, they did not believe that Jesus was God. Paul wrote, 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 UASV: (5) For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords, (6) yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we...
  4. keithr

    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    That's according to men (and women, like you). More important is the definition of a Christian according to God. A Christian is a person who believes that Jesus is the Son of God, that he died on a cross to save people from sin, and that he rose from the dead. A Christian tries to live by the...
  5. keithr

    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    “What must I do to be saved?” asks what does one need to do to become a Christian. “What is necessary to be a Christian?” asks what must one need to believe and do in order to remain a Christian; at least that is what I intended it to mean. :clmSmlx The forum administrators seem to think that...
  6. keithr

    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    It's a similar question, but I started this thread to discuss whether or not a person must believe in the Trinity in order to be a Christian. As I wrote in the opening post: I've recently been banned from taking part in discussions in all the 'Christians Only' forums, because the CyB Team...
  7. keithr

    Which is worse, murder or eternal torture?

    Satan's "reward", or punishment, is death. Matthew 25:41 WEB: (41) Then he will say also to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; Hebrews 2:14 KJV: (14) Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh...
  8. keithr

    Which is worse, murder or eternal torture?

    Eternal torture is pure evil; it's not what a loving person would do. 1 John 4:8-10 (WEB) says: (8) He who doesn’t love doesn’t know God, for God is love. (9) By this God’s love was revealed in us, that God has sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. (10) In...
  9. keithr

    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    No. Jesus said, in Matthew 5:38-48 WEB: (38) “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’ (39) But I tell you, don’t resist him who is evil; but whoever strikes you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. (40) If anyone sues you to take away your...
  10. keithr

    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    Or, from the video Is God a Trinity of Persons? Definition, History & Scripture - by Sean Finnegan: Stages of Trinitarian Development The first person in history whoever used the term trinity as a Christian is a man named Theophilus of Antioch in the year 184. This is 150 give or take years...
  11. keithr

    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    (Continuing...) Again, do evangelicals believe that the man who picks up a gospel tract on a bus or train and sincerely prays the “Sinner’s Prayer” is not yet saved because he does not possess faith in the doctrines of the Trinity and the dual nature of Christ? Will evangelicals disavow the...
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    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    (Continuing...) Instruction in the word largely came in the time following people receiving Christ – not during the time leading up to conversion. This approach is found in various examples in the Book of Acts. It includes cases involving conversion of Jews, proselytes, Samaritans and a wide...
  13. keithr

    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    From Must you believe in the Trinity to be saved?: As I left the Billy Graham crusade one evening, I was struck by a remarkable realization. Hundreds if not thousands were responding to the call of Dr. Graham. Yet, it seemed likely to me that most of them did not possess even a rudimentary...
  14. keithr

    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    I've not received any direct request to desist from anything, and no I've not persisted - when they had banned any discussion of the Trinity I often pointed that out to others that it was banned, to avoid digressing into a discussion of it. They then allowed discussion of it again, although...
  15. keithr

    What is necessary to be a Christian?

    I've been a Christian for well over thirty years, and I am the treasurer and a trustee of the Pentecostal Christian church that I've been attending for about 32 years, but I've recently been banned from taking part in discussions in all the 'Christians Only' forums, because the CyB Team think...
  16. keithr

    Does this sound like anyone here?

    I think I can imagine how you think about Christianity (but I may be wrong!). I too believed in God for many years, but even though I believed, I couldn't help thinking that it was possible that Christianity was all made up by men over thousands of years, as I had no personal experience or...
  17. keithr

    BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF CHRIST

    This is getting silly, so this will be my last comment on this! You've just quoted yourself as writing "No, that's incorrect", and focussing on a different word to what I was writing about. Quoting the whole verse - Colossians 1:16 MKJV: (16) For all things were created in Him, the things in...
  18. keithr

    BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF CHRIST

    How do you know that? Just because it's not how mankind normally procreates it does not mean that God cannot create a man with 23 chromosomes. Jesus did not have a human father. God could have supplied 23 chromosomes or just one. God designed and made man, He knows whether or not a man can...
  19. keithr

    BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF CHRIST

    And you've missed my point! I said the the word that's translated as 'through' in both verses is in both cases a translation of the same Greek word. You replied and said that was incorrect, but it IS correct. No. Just because I believe somebody that was a Seventh Day Adventist (SDA) doesn't...
  20. keithr

    BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF CHRIST

    I was correct! :clmSmlx I wrote "In both Romans 11:36 and Colossian 1:16 the word 'through' is translated from the same Greek word dia", i.e.: Colossians 1:16 UASV (16) For by {en} him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or...