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  1. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I don't see that in the scriptures. I see God having one plan for Israel and another for the church of the body. I don't that the church is the true Israel. I know a few verses can be taken out of context to suggest such a thing, but the overall message of scripture does not support that...
  2. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Could you tell me exactly what I said that led you to the conclusion that I think that God and Paul lied? Exactly! What he is not saying is that he was afraid of loosing the incorruptible seed God created in him. It does not say he was afraid of loosing his salvation. It's a parable. A parable...
  3. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Those verses say nothing about loosing salvation. What they do say is that, "some will depart from the faith." Just leave it at that. Don't insert what is not there. The same pattern fits for all verses proffered as saying God's perfect creation, the new man of Eph 4:24 and Col 3:10 can be...
  4. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    My thoughts on Paul lying or not are beside the point. It has nothing to do with what 1 Cor 9:27 says. As you correctly translated the word "castaway," 1 Cor 9:27 clearly says that Paul did not want to become a "reprobate." What it does not say is that Paul was afraid of loosing the new man God...
  5. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Including Paul? 1 Tim 1:15-16, This is a trustworthy - saying, - worthy of full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the worst. But for this very reason - I was shown mercy, so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His perfect...
  6. Rich R

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    There are two sides to the issue: Gen 2:16-17, 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die...
  7. Rich R

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    That's true. But there is this: John 16:13, Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. I would think the spirit of truth is as...
  8. Rich R

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Like the 12 apostles. Fishermen have no qualifications to teach the Bible.
  9. Rich R

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    That is true. However, symbols point to a reality, something that is actually going to happen.
  10. Rich R

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Well, it'd be a heck of an afterlife if we couldn't even praise God! I'd rather be with God and Jesus also, but that isn't going to happen until Jesus comes back again. In a few places in his letters, Paul explained the sequence of events as to when the dead in Christ would rise from the dead...
  11. Rich R

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Exactly what the ancient Egyptians and Greeks believed. But the Hebrews believed that the dead were dead. Eccl 9:5, For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Eccl 9:10, Whatsoever thy...
  12. Rich R

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Jesus called the transfiguration a vision. Matt 17:9, And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. Also, why would Jesus have to raised from the dead if the dead aren't dead?
  13. Rich R

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Heb 11:13, These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them], and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. Abraham was among the "these all die" in this verse, so he died. And...
  14. Rich R

    Dealing with : The Body of Sin

    I have to say I'm totally confused by the things you say. On the one hand, you say I'll be sent to hell for believing Jesus freed us from the law. On the other hand, you say we are free from sin. The two ideas are diametrically opposed to each other. Am I liable for eternal damnation for...
  15. Rich R

    Dealing with : The Body of Sin

    I think I see what you are saying now, but just to make sure, are you saying that a Christian can not sin? Verse 6 says we are released from the law, not sin, nor the spiritual battle between flesh and spirit. Cain wasn't under the law either, but he certainly sinned. Technically, the...
  16. Rich R

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Nonetheless, I think Jesus was pointing out the insidious nature of sin.
  17. Rich R

    Dealing with : The Body of Sin

    I have two natures. With the flesh, I, like Paul, serve the law of sin. With the mind I, like Paul, serve the law of the spirit. Rom 7:22-23, 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me...
  18. Rich R

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    True. I may have been exaggerating!
  19. Rich R

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    It might be comforting to remind the grieving parents that Jesus will raise their child in the end. But, as you said, it might be best to just let them cry on your shoulder.
  20. Rich R

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Pluck out your eye if it causes you to offend. Cut off your hand if that offends you. How about, thinking evil about someone is the same as murder? Since Jesus was obligated to observe all the Jewish feasts, why don't we? There's a bunch of things like that if you think about it.