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Read John Calvin's Institutes, Big Boy. I dare you. <GRIN> Grace and peace to you.

I didn't say "during," I said "through the course of"... and those are not necessarily the same thing... but that's not really the issue. I said that what is said there, "The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended" (English Standard Version) ~ and I would add...

Okay, fair enough. That the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended can validly be understood in two different ways, as I said above... and gave reason for. In addition, and in response to what you said here, clearly, at the end of verse 5, immediately after...

Right, so then the question is who you are referring to when you say "calvinist brethren," and from what you say, they are not Calvinists; they understand at least the parts of God's Word we have discussed very contrary to how John Calvin (and thus true Calvinists) do. Ah so now you're saying...

Ah, that would be you, Big Boy. David and I know very well what you think Calvinism teaches... <smile>... as evidenced by the things you have said about it. But those thoughts and statements regarding what Calvinism teaches are quite wrong, as demonstrated by both of us. Grace and peace to you.

So this is interesting... Yes, there is much disagreement regarding who John is referring to in his vision in saying "the rest of the dead," and I'll get to that, but the first issue, it seems, is not who he is referring to, but the timeframe in which the rest of the dead who "come to life."...

I've said the same to both Big Boy and Grailhunter, David. But some people are so dug into their mindsets that they can't... break free, I guess you could say. That's called pride, and lack of humility, among other things. But of course I'm preaching to the choir, here... <smile> Yeah, it's...

As extensively evidenced in this thread, what you (and Big Boy) reckon these "false beliefs" to be is/are itself/themselves false. And what is unfortunate is, that is... not always, but most of the time... how these "discussions" go. Do not believe according to your opinion of what Calvin...

I disagree with that; I think David's posts are at least fairly thoughtful, as opposed to... well, several on here. Grace and peace to you.

This: ...is a direct contradiction of this: The two statements are not congruent at all, and in fact opposite each other. Yes, you absolutely did. <smile> Grace and peace to you.

No, it's not, David. It's talking about his ability to deceive the nations (obviously)... which means, David, deceiving people-groups, Gentile people-groups, not individuals. This was Jesus's commissioning of His disciples ~ and all of us, by extension ~ to "go therefore and make disciples of...

Absolutely not. See above. Grace and peace to you.

I agree... Nice cut and paste. I mean, really, nice... that's not meant to be belittling in any way. ...despite the M.O of you and Big Boy... But notice the bolded and enlarged part of your own quote above. There, it is plain to see that God did not predestine some ~ any ~ to this eternal...

Does it say how old we were? <smile> I would be a bit interested to know what in Scripture you are referring to. But even David says he was born in sin, even conceived in it ~ "I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me" (Psalm 51:5). That's surely not what I ~ or...

Yes, but it is not used in the same context in all the places it appears. In other words, 'no more' can mean for a season, and it can also mean forever. And it can also mean both; more on that in a moment. David, you're making my point for me. During God's millennium, which we are in the...

Yes, but it didn't take long... <smile> And that would be because of the sinful nature we are born with. Every person is a sinner, even before sin manifests itself outwardly in a person. And, as Horton said, in Dr. Suess's "Horton Hears a Who," a person is a person no matter how small."...

Neither, I think. <smile> Grace and peace to you.

A distinction with no difference... I mean, not to put John Calvin on equal footing with God, of course, or anywhere close to it, but... <smile> Nobody's lying. THAT is EXACTLY CORRECT, Big Boy. Fantastic. So you should understand that Christ's atonement is unlimited in the sense of the...

Not all of it, but it goes back and forth and the same points (and "points") get made over and over and over again. It's like a soap opera, really, you can take a decade off and then pick it back up and it's as if you were never away at all... <smile> I know that Revelation 20:1-3 states that...

Wouldn't you first have to prove that any person (Jew or Gentile) can be grafted in can be cut off? We're talking about what Paul says in Romans 11, but this is just after he has written what he wrote in Romans 8, that regarding Christians, "there is therefore now no condemnation for those who...