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Well give us an explanation for how Michael didn’t “stand up” in Revelation 12. <5975> amad Usage: The Hebrew verb "amad" primarily means "to stand" in a physical sense, but it extends to various contexts, including standing firm, enduring, or taking a position. It can imply a literal...

An argument for Ezekiel describing an ancient battle that was fought with ancient weapons. Gog’s army would attack on horseback, carrying swords, war clubs and spears. In verses 5-7, Ezekiel identifies Gog’s allies as Persia, Cush, Put, Gomer, Beth-Togarmah. The nations that fought with...

You’re right, no resurrection is recorded in Revelation 12:7-13, but both Daniel 12 and Revelation 12 have to be true concerning Michael. There is an interpretation that has all things true and correct. I think the problem is that it’s easier to ignore the issue of Michael standing up than it...

If I said when the sun goes down, I will call you. You would expect that from the time I made that statement, at the next time the sun went down, I would give you a call, right? Even though the sun goes down every day. Let’s say we apply the principle that when something is prophesied to take...

Well that idea might work if the book of Daniel was written after the war in heaven. From the time that Daniel 12 was written, from that time forward, when Michael stands up, that is the time that Daniel 12:1 gets fulfilled. Daniel is estimated to be written in the 6th century BC although some...

Ezekiel 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter <319> days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. Genesis 49:1 And Jacob called...

When researching Gog and Magog there is a reference to Gog prior to Ezekiel and it isn’t easily found. Numbers 24:7 (KJV) He shall pour the water out of his buckets, and his seed shall be in many waters, and his king shall be higher than Agag, and his kingdom shall be exalted. Numbers 24:7...

I agree. I think there are a lot of people who have an adversity to fulfillment, they want as much of the Bible as possible to be fulfilled on them and reject it being fulfilled in the past. Then there are some pastors that sensationalize the Bible by claiming we are currently in the last days...

Personally I don’t think whether Michael is Christ or not will have a large impact on a person’s eschatology. I think the strongest evidence for Michael being Christ is the name Michael itself. From the Hebrew name מִיכָאֵל (Miḵaʾel) meaning "who is like God?", derived from the interrogative...

I think Michael could be Christ but I’m not dogmatic about it. I don’t argue one way or the other. I tend to think the war in Revelation 12 is a courtroom type war where the fight is structured arguments. I can’t see any kind of chaotic war happening in heaven. I would also say that courtroom...

The verse is Daniel 12:1 where it says Michael stands up at that time. If Christ stood up at the cross then that is the time Daniel 12:1 is referring to else Michael isn’t Christ. As far as Revelation 12 goes, you would have to give evidence that Michael fought the dragon while he was seated. I...

Daniel 12:1 says “at that time shall Michael stand up”. Are you denying that Christ stood up at the time of the cross?

The word “stand up” in Daniel 12:1 is <5975> amad. Here is what Strong’s lexicon says … Usage: The Hebrew verb "amad" primarily means "to stand" in a physical sense, but it extends to various contexts, including standing firm, enduring, or taking a position. It can imply a literal standing...

Michael (Christ) stood up for His people at the time of the cross, right? If so, what is your view on how Michael (Christ) stands up at the time of trouble and resurrection in Daniel 12 if He stood up at the cross? Is Daniel 12:1-2 referring to the time of the cross?

Yea, I agree, but the issue of Michael standing up to fight the dragon is still unresolved. In Daniel 7:10 the books are opened and in Daniel 7:13 one like the Son of man comes to the Ancient of days. If we say Daniel 7:10 & 13 are referring to when Jesus ascended to heaven in the clouds then...

Ok, that’s a reasonable explanation but then in Revelation 12 Michael fights the dragon. Many people place this war in heaven as taking place during the first century and not a future event. Michael surely has to stand up to fight the dragon, right?

Daniel 12:1And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be...

If we start with a definition for the word deceive and everyone can agree on that definition then that would be a good place to start. From Webster, to cause to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid. If someone already believes something is false that really is true, then yea, even...

How can that be though? Wouldn’t people in the millennium be keeping track of time and know the exact date that the millennium will end and Satan be loosed? 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of...

If you want to go in that direction, keep in mind that Adam wasn’t deceived. 1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Some people interpret this verse as Adam knowingly taking on sin in order to cleave to his wife.