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I've been steering the discussion away from the one dimensional determinist view that ignores the fact that those partaking of the grace of God can and do fall from it. It happens, and God allows it to happen. From cover to cover the Word of God speaks to the need to continue in faith or be cut...

Possibly for another thread, but Solomon . . .

There are many ex-Christians. Some have been in ministry leadership but have lost their faith. This thread is about them. They exist. The line "they were never really Christians" is a cop-out and a fallacy of logic, as previously stated. Just as a person can't fall from a roof if they never...

And here we are . . .

Whoa! The Bible speaks of falling from grace, not falling from the illusion of it. Gal 5:4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

TBC He had all of the above going on. Yeah, the classic "wasn't really a Christian" is a fallacy of logic. Ex-Mormons were real Mormons. Ex-JW's were real JW's. Ex-husbands and ex-wives were real husbands and real wives. Ex-military personnel were real military personnel. Conditions apply...

From my studies I have found differing views on who wrote Psalm 119. Many think David but I concur with those who put forward Ezra as a possibility. Ezr 7:6 this Ezra came up from Babylon; and he was a skilled scribe in the Law of Moses, which the LORD God of Israel had given. The king granted...

Psalm 119 is the longest psalm and the longest chapter in the Bible with **176 verses**¹. It is an acrostic poem that is organized in an acrostic pattern, with **22 sections** corresponding to the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet, and each line in each section starting with the same letter¹. It...

True story: A young man identified as a Christian, believed that God raised Christ from the dead, believed with his heart unto righteousness and confessed with his mouth unto salvation. He considered himself saved for eternity, and grew in faith, studying the Word of God and getting seriously...

Example: The three-part removal Rev 22:19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Paul speaks to us of the problem of turning away, it happens, that is my sole point in this thread, not whether salvation can be lost. Gal 1:6-7 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, (7) which is not another; but...

Silly Paul, for thinking the Galatians had fallen from grace, Gal 5:4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

Since antiquity there has been a spirit at work that throws everything it can at debunking the real Christ, offering alternative ideologies which give rise to alternative champions. Marxism is one example of this.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. If you were travelling on a road somewhere and the bridge ahead of you was washed away, wouldn't you be glad if you got a...

Stipulate - to insist (on) as a term of an agreement

This is sort of on topic. I've just been appraising "The Remedy" which is a New Testament paraphrase by Tim Jennings. Quote from this link: Come And Reason Ministries "Timothy R. Jennings, M.D., is a board-certified psychiatrist, master psychopharmacologist, Distinguished Life Fellow of the...

It's legal.

I'm with Team Christ on this one. Salvation itself doesn't cost me a thing. Nothing I think, say, do, or offer can "buy" my salvation. Act 20:28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He...

For when you return . . .