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Well, I do personally think the kingdom has been established and that only people who are born again can enter into it. However if there are currently offenders in that kingdom then claiming the offenders got into the kingdom because the kingdom wasn’t established yet doesn’t make sense.

Ok, in the parable of the tares it says “ the kingdom of heaven is …” I want to confirm you think the kingdom of heaven is the millennial kingdom. I had a conversation with someone on this forum a few days ago who boldly told me there are no Premils who will deny we have come to the kingdom of...

Let me ask you this, currently, has anyone entered into the kingdom in any way, shape,or form?

Ok, He was sowing seed in His field. Here’s what you said in post #18 When did or will Jesus loose His field he’s sowing the seeds in? He has to loose it before it can be given back to Him, right?

That would mean that currently nobody is in the kingdom right? And when Jesus returns He allows everyone into His kingdom before sending the angels out to get rid of the tares, right? Why doesn’t Jesus just send the angels first to get rid of the tares then established His kingdom?

Ok, so Jesus sowed first then Satan sowed the tares. In Matthew 13:24 both the good seed and the tares are sown in His field. When did Jesus loose the field that will be given back to him?

How did those who don’t belong get into the kingdom when John 3:5 says a person must be born again to enter the kingdom?

Here’s what Pulpit commentary says on that … Our Lord modifies the last clause, and speaks of entering into the kingdom of God rather than perceiving or discerning the features of the kingdom. Some have urged that ἰδεῖν of ver. 3 is equivalent to εἰσελθεῖν εἰς of ver. 5. The vision, say they...

Are you saying unbelievers inhabit the kingdom but haven’t actually entered it? How would that be possible?

Satan sowing the tares prior to a Premil millennium isn’t an issue, it’s when some Premil try to place the parable of the tares as occurring in the millennium, that causes the issue. Some people on the one hand want to say the kingdom hasn’t been established yet but Satan has already sown the...

Unbelieving Jews are most like in view in Matthew 7. In Matthew 12:24 the Pharisees said Jesus cast out devils by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. Then in Matthew 12:27 Jesus says by whom do your children cast them out. Unless you think the Pharisees children were somehow believers in Jesus...

Ok, then Jesus sowed the seed in His kingdom already along with Satan sowing the tares. How do you come to this conclusion if Jesus and Satan have already sowed their seeds?

Right, I agree there are unsaved people in the corporate church but John 3:5 can’t be referring to the corporate church unless someone can lose their salvation or be born again and then be not born again.

In Matthew 13:24-25 a man sowed good seed in His field, then the enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat. If the kingdom hasn’t been established yet and only takes place in a future millennium then that is when Satan will sow the tares. How can Satan do that when he is in the bottomless pit?

So how do the offenders get into the kingdom in the first place? John 3:5 tells us only born again people can enter the kingdom.

Let’s look at Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Prior to the cross people were entering the kingdom by way of the Law. At some...

Sure, so how did those who offend get into the kingdom in the first place?

Ok, so currently there are unsaved people in the kingdom of God? Is that your view?

If I understand you correctly, you’re placing the parable of the weeds, in Matthew 13, as taking place in the millennium, correct? If so how does Satan sow the tares when he is bound in the bottomless pit?

Nearly every translation on Biblehub has “enter the kingdom” for John 3:5, including NKJ. John 3:5 (NKJ) Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. There are other verses such as Matthew 18:3 that also suggest...