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The battles we read of are all of the same nature that is the spiritual battle being waged between the forces of good and the forces of evil. When the saints return with Christ at the end of this age it shall not be to battle, but to be changed from mortal to immortal and corruptible to...

Unfortunately too much becomes overwhelming, so trying to be brief often requires more than one reply. Otherwise few are interested in reading a book in these forums. We, as physical mortal humans are in this world. But the Kingdom of God being within us resides within the spirit of man, not...

Let me re-state! I believe and have been arguing the part of the vision of Christ in heaven with "much people" is fulfilled. But the battle John envisions being waged is on-going still and won't be finished until the end of this age of time.

If I had the slightest idea of what you're talking about perhaps I could set the record straight??? I never said it was all fulfilled, I said only that the cross and resurrection and Him ascending to heaven with the saints of Old is fulfilled. The final victory over the whole earth will not be...

No, I did not! I have repeatedly now said that Christ's victory over sin and death was fulfilled at the cross, and that why John writes of a celebration in heaven taking place when Christ ascended there with His Old Covenant faithful saints. Then I said John is shown a vision of all that has...

In Rev 19 John is shown a vision of heaven after Christ's cross and resurrection. He hears a "great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God". Because Christ was victorious over sin and death all the faithful saints of...

I can't help it if you aren't carefully reading my replies. One more time I believe chapter 19 of the Revelation of Jesus Christ depicts not only the beginning as well as the close of this age of time (a thousand years) when the seventh/last trumpet begins to sound, and depicts all that has...

How can you say its false if you don't know what it is? Christ has already come with the Kingdom of God; however, the Kingdom of God shall not be complete before the last one to be saved has been born again! Already but not yet, get it? You can honestly say you don't believe this is being...

Yes, I believe this is a depiction of Satan's little season after time given this earth, symbolized a thousand years expires. After his little season when this heaven and earth have fled away, ALL the DEAD shall be called before the GWTJ to give account according to all that is written in the...

What I'm talking about is how fulfillment is happening NOW since the advent of Christ but will not be complete until the last/seventh trumpet begins to sound. Many refer to this as "already, but not yet" understanding of Scripture. That is not the message I intended to portray. My apologies...

The number of passages that premillennialists think come after Christ's second coming, MUST, MUST, MUST be SPIRITUALLY discerned!!! It only appears to conflict with amillennialism because premills try to force physical fulfillment upon MANY of the prophecies of Old.

I believe the gates of heaven that saints might enter in was opened once Christ came to make atonement for sin and defeat death. IMO Rev 19 is showing us all that has come and is coming to pass as the gospel of the Kingdom of God has been sent unto all the nations of the world. We know that...

Both WPM and SI will never reply to what is actually said. Instead, they put their spin on replies they don't like, and twist what is said to make it appear you & I believe that Satan doesn't exist. They've both shown themselves unworthy of the truth. This is very well thought out and...

David, I'm Amillennial but I don't believe Rev 19 is future. IMO vss. 1-10 symbolically depict a vision John is shown of heaven after Christ came to earth a man, and through His cross and resurrection salvation and the spiritual Kingdom of God came to man. (Rev 12:10) That's why there are many...

You don't get to the core of discussions by showing yourself to be arrogant and rude (((LOL)))! My desire in these discussions is first and foremost to bring honor to God, not to be drawn into tit for tat. Consider why God had this lamentation directed to the king of Tyrus who reigned over...

Once again I can see this discussion brings no glory to God!

Likewise WPM! You are so bent on trying to force Satan to be created and angel of God who became evil, that you refuse to acknowledge not only all biblical proof texts but also anyone who disagrees with what your doctrinal pov imagines.

Cherubim are imaginary figures symbolizing guardians for God's holiness, protection and presence in Scripture. They are neither spirit of God nor spirit of evil. They show God as guardian over the tree of life in the garden of Eden, they depict God's presence in the Tabernacle and Temple, in...

Where can I find these terms "natural darkness" or "spiritual darkness" in the Bible? The text simply tells us the darkness covered the face of the deep, before God said, "Let there be light". Before calling the darkness night and the light day. Also why does Isaiah tell us that God did...

Why is all that God created called "very good" since darkness was not obliterated, but divided from the light?