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How can the physical city be holy after Christ came in the Kingdom of God? You said, "The Kingdom of God indwells the People of God". So, if Christ and believers represent the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven, how can the AOD be "Roman armies compassing the holy city of Jerusalem"?

How could the physical temple still be the holy place after Christ came with the Kingdom of God declaring Himself and His body (faithful saints) to be the Temple? John 2:21 (KJV) But he spake of the temple of his body. 1 Corinthians 6:19 (KJV) What? know ye not that your body is the temple...

That these things must be spiritually, not physically discerned. Since the Church on earth is the representation spiritually of the Kingdom of God, i.e. the holy place, what is the AOD spoken of by Daniel standing in the holy place (Kingdom of God) that "whoso reads, let him understand"...

The blood of Christ abolished the Old Covenant forever! It doesn't matter that after the cross the Jews continued to live under the Old Covenant through material sacrifices and offerings until the city and temple were destroyed leaving them no choice but to abandon that which Christ had already...

I would argue the Old Covenant ended when Christ came with the Kingdom of God and ushered in a New Covenant. It wasn't the Old Covenant that perished in 70 AD, it was the material/physical structures that represented the Old Covenant that vanished in 70 AD. According to Scripture we have been...

It really seems to depend on what is meant by "all things which are written may be fulfilled." I'm not inclined to believe this is speaking of all things being fulfilled in 70 AD. Lu 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all...

Now your confusing eternal life that only God can give with natural, mortal life that is reproduced within mankind naturally. To have eternal/perpetual/forever life is to have life through the Spirit of Christ in us, and that does not come naturally to man, but supernaturally when we are born...

You keep trying to force a distinction that is not there. Since the fall mankind possesses natural life within themselves. That's how man is able to reproduce natural/physical life to their offspring. Because Scripture says psychḗ (life) comes through spirit (heart, mind, soul, humankind)...

Yes, do you then also understand the Church on earth is the only representation of the Kingdom of God in heaven upon this earth? And when the Lord speaks of the literal, physical destruction of the Old Covenant city and temple it was that they/we might know that the Old Covenant representation...

Do you believe that when Christ came to earth with the Kingdom of God, it replaced the physical Holy Temple in Jerusalem that would never be called holy unto God again?

I've told you what I believe the purpose for measuring was. You obviously don't agree, so instead of keeping me guessing what you believe I have not rightly understood, why not simply tell me what you believe the purpose is?

The measuring is indeed for a purpose! To show the efficiency/efficacy of the cross. The temple of God, and altar, and them that worship therein, along with the court that is left out all represent the spiritual habitation of the Kingdom of God in heaven, that on earth is represented as the...

Prior to the two witnesses being sent out unto all nations, John was instructed to measure the temple of God, the altar, and them that worship therein. This measuring was of the temple of God, the altar and them that worship therein after Christ came to build the Kingdom of God as the gospel is...

Neither I, nor the Bible separates God's chosen people into two separate bodies since the advent of Christ coming to earth to save His sheep (Jew & Gentile). But we cannot deny there was a "first Covenant" according to Levitical Law as well as the New Covenant according to grace. The first...

He doesn't deny it, rather he believes Christ uses familiar literal objects that must be discerned through spiritual fulfillment.

Absolutely! Not many understand the Church in the wilderness of Old, the Old Covenant faithful saints were the congregation/assembly/called out ones who were the Church in Israel as She existed on earth long before Christ came to usher in the universal Church; the Kingdom of God that would come...

It was not my intent to refute what you've written that I agree with.

It's good to hear you're not livid with me hlo

I agree that spiritual warfare is against the Church, I also view great tribulation as that which has been on-going in the Church from the beginning, and although great tribulation shall become greater and greater, especially when Satan is loosed from the pit for a "little season", I believe it...

I believe TS has greater understanding than most for discerning natural things used in Scripture that point to spiritual, not literal fulfillment. While I agree that Christ was warning of a literal destruction, the point of using literal physical things to define spiritual fulfillment should not...