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    A recent session I had with Chatgpt pertaining to some of the Discourse

    I believe the reason Christ warned them of the destruction of Jerusalem and Temple was because their minds and hearts had love for that which is physical (the Old Covenant). Christ had taught them for three years about the Kingdom of God He came to earth with, that is not of this world, cannot...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    But Paul does speak of believers being "raised (not resurrected) a spiritual body" when our natural body succumbs to death. This is the reason Christ tells us that whosoever lives and believes in Him SHALL NEVER DIE! What Jesus was referring to is the fact that even these Old Covenant faithful...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    The body of Christ was not quickened! The body of Christ was physically resurrected three days after He died. But death on the cross could not kill His spirit. Through the Spirit, the spirit that gave physical life to Christ, quickened by the Holy Spirit returned to the Father in heaven just as...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    It was not our body that was quickened (made alive), we are already physically alive! What part of man was dead and must be made alive? Is it not both spirit & soul together? Certainly not our physical body that is already alive! Because the spirit is the breath (oxygen; air) that makes us...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    Yes it does! What Scripture tells us is that when we believe in Christ, having been born again through His Spirit is us we possess ETERNAL life. That's present tense, not future tense. How are we be eternally alive in Christ when we have been born again? Through His eternal life-giving...
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    A recent session I had with Chatgpt pertaining to some of the Discourse

    This on-going argument is exactly why I cannot embrace even partial preterism. It simply muddies the water and takes away from the sufficiency of the cross. So what if history proves a literal destruction in 70 AD! Doesn't change the FACT that it was at the cross not 70 AD that all that was...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    It may be after the holidays before I can reply, things have gotten busy here. rwb
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    You're only focusing on one part of how Paul describes being made alive (quickened). First Paul speaks about that part of man that is quickened (made alive through the Holy Spirit). We who were not physically dead but dead in trespasses and sins must be made alive (quickened) in life. That's why...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    Because the source, spirit, is still a living soul (alive) after physical death. That's how John is able to see souls alive AFTER they lived and reigned and were martyred, spiritually with Christ during this period of time symbolized a thousand years. They are the spiritual body of Christ...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    Since the life we receive in Christ is eternal life, where do we wait after physical death for the resurrection of our mortal body to immortality and incorruptibility? If death of our physical body means we will not live again until the resurrection of our body, why does Scripture repeatedly...
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    A recent session I had with Chatgpt pertaining to some of the Discourse

    I don't believe 30 plus years nor 2000 plus years define that which was drawing near. I agree the things Christ referenced did become to come to pass from the cross forward, and still beyond 70 AD. Yes, Jesus' predictions were clearly meant to awaken His first century disciples, but all that...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    Now I repeating myself, because when we must be born again through the Spirit of Christ in us. And when we are born again we possess eternal life through Christ's Spirit, therefore when we have His Spirit we are in Christ.
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    When we are indwelt with the Holy Spirit we are in Christ, and He in us. Matthew 12:18 (KJV) Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles. Acts 2:17 (KJV) And it shall come to...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    None of us are capable of attaining to eternal life without the presence of the Holy Spirit in us. I don't believe eternal life is the free gift offered to fallen man. I believe the gospel or message about Christ and what He has done for us is what is freely offered to all of mankind, and...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    I agree, the life we receive through Christ is of His Spirit in us. The Spirit of Christ in living humans has quickened/is quickening (made/making alive) our spirit to live forever. Which is why Christ says whoever lives and believes in Me shall NEVER die. When Christ says we shall never die...
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    A recent session I had with Chatgpt pertaining to some of the Discourse

    This is true, but I don't believe Christ is limiting the warnings to first century Jewish disciples. The warnings are written as a warning to those disciples and every disciple that would come after them throughout the ages. The time that was drawing near is not reference to 70 AD. The time...
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    A recent session I had with Chatgpt pertaining to some of the Discourse

    Yes, Jesus was more concerned about building the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven, but His disciples had a difficult time letting go of the Covenant of Old they had learned and obeyed for many generations. I believe that's why Christ told them to stop admiring all that represented the Old...
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    A Challenge

    To be a living soul is to be alive. This life can be eternal spiritual life through the Spirit of Christ in us, and it is also physical life that gives life to flesh, through spirit that became a living soul. The flesh dies, and if the man of flesh was indwelt with the Holy Spirit, the spirit...
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    Amil interpretation of 2 Peter 3:10-12 vs Genesis 9:15

    Of course not! This passage is depicting a vision of heaven, as creation existed before sin and death through sin entered in. Heaven is the interim for the spiritual body of Christ, living souls, to wait after physical death until time for building the Kingdom of God is finished. These are some...
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    A recent session I had with Chatgpt pertaining to some of the Discourse

    Fulfillment of the literal destruction came in 70 AD and over and done. But the spiritual fulfillment began to come to pass at the cross and has been on-going and shall continue until the last trumpet sounds that time given for building the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven as the gospel is...