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    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    I'm not sure just how your comments relate to my post. However, just some comments: Scripture presupposes the immortality of the soul. No human being will receive an immortal existence, both body and soul until the Second Coming of Christ. I Cor 15: 53 - 54. It is not dependent on the...
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    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    It isn't the texts that are incorrect. It is your interpretation of them where you err. These verses DO NOT state man inherited the sin of Adam. It states that Adam sinned, and death came because of that sin. We became mortal. This mortality is what we inherited. We sin because we are...
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    SATAN, NOT BOUND YET

    You may not call it the Church Age, but it is the period of Time from Christ's Resurrection, formation of His Church to the end of time. Rev 20 has always been recognized as a summary of the Church Age. As far as I know the only people who don't hold the scriptural view are dispensationalists...
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    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    There is no text anywhere in scripture that states mankind has ever inherited the sin of Adam. What we have inherited is the punishment Adam received for his sin. It was the curse of death. Christ overcame death by His resurrection. How can you miss such clear scriptures as Gen3:19, Rom 5:12...
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    AMILLENNIALISM, A GNOSTIC DOCTRINE

    There have been many variations of some form of Millennialism from earliest times. All modern views probably came from some earlier view. However most current modern forms probably started with William Miller in mid 19th century. Another one would be Darby. Today we have Lindsey, Walvoord...
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    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    Quite contrary. My whole post originally was ONLY about mankind. It never even referenced man's spiritual existence with God. In my second post I also only referenced the relationship God had with His creation from the cause of separation, namely death, the curse given to Adam. That...
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    SATAN, NOT BOUND YET

    Excellent explanation.
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    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    You show a total misunderstanding of Gospel respective of the creation of man and this world, the fall of man and the redemption of the world from the fall, which put the universe right with God, so that His prime creature, man, could again be in communion with Him in this world. I explained...
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    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    ALL men are made righteous. Righteous does not mean no sinners. It means to be made correct, right. Christ reversed the curse of the fall and made all things right. Defeated death. I Cor 15:21-22 says the same thing.
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    SATAN, NOT BOUND YET

    Rev 20 is a summation of current Church Age. Christ did not come 2000 years or more after the Church was established. It was established with the Apostles. Christ first words of His ministry was, Repent, for the Kingdom is at hand. What Kingdom? His Church. Granted the Apostles were men, but...
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    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    Sin is not commutable, Rom 5:12 clearly states that death is what is passed to all men. I Cor 15:20-22. Rom 5:18 reinforces this concept. Your misinterpretation makes Christ a sinner if sin is passed through our human nature. Christ took on our human nature in every respect. Christ came to...
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    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    Depends on context. In the context of Christ's ressurrection He gave life to all men, I Cor 15:21-22. At the resurrection all men will receive immortality and incorruptibility I Cor 15: 52-53. As far as definitions go, immortal is also eternal. The other context where it is used is when...
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    Predestinated to Salvation !

    Making an irrelevant statement without evidence is just that, a nonsensical statement.
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    Predestinated to Salvation !

    Repeating your supporting texts does not make your argument valid. You have not shown how it could be scriptural and not a theory devised by men.
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    Predestinated to Salvation !

    Just on an historical perspective, most Christians have never held ot the idea of predestination as described by you. The only person in early Christianity who had a concept of predestination of a person to believe was Augustine, Even though Augustine is considered the father of the Roman...
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    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    Theologically, it cannot be considered immortal. If you so believe, then man's soul existed from beginning with God. His soul would not be created. Even with Christ's resurrection it is not immortal as God is immortal but a created immortality. Man will always be a created creature who is...
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    How the idea of Immortal Soul got into the Church

    Immortality has always been within Christian theology, even Jewish in the OT. Man was created to be immortal. God did not create man immortal but good with two elements, body and soul. It was this created being, made from dust, that was given life. God created man to be a participant in this...
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    The Fall of Humanity

    God created man to be eternal. God did not create man to have him die and return to dust. That would be absurd. Because of his sin, man became mortal. Yes, the entire creation fell. Christ redeemed His creation, to make it eternal again. The story of the Isrealites with the Tree Moses...
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    The Fall of Humanity

    You are very confused. Your whole comment above has to do with spiritual death. Sin separates us from God - breaking of one's relationship, namely spiritual death. Which we do easily and often because of our mortality. You need to study Pelagianism. It is a false teaching but it is exactly...