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  1. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    You bring up some very good ideas that got me thinking about the subject. With the scientific advancements we've made since Moses penned Genesis, it is rather obvious that the description on how God made the universe was not written in order to conform to modern science. While our science can...
  2. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    God wrote to a people who lived about 3,000 years before the present time, whose worldview was radically different than our own, and whose culture was equally radically different than our own. I wonder if they would have had any discussions about the scriptures being literal or not? And what...
  3. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Building a doctrine on one word, "signify" in this case, is not a good idea. There are roughly 750,000 words (depending of course on the translation) in the Bible and they should all be considered when building a doctrine. John 12:33, This he said, signifying what death he should die. Taken...
  4. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    I think Revelation 19 says Jesus will come from heaven and battle kings on the earth. After that I don't see where he goes back to heaven. Revelations 20 (see verse 8) also appears to take place on the earth. At least that seems to be what the plain language says. Now if we want to spiritualize...
  5. Rich R

    There is no spiritual gift called "the gift of tongues".

    It's kind of mind boggling what KJV translators did sometimes: Exod 6:2-3, 2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I [am] the LORD: 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by [the name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. In verse 2 they...
  6. Rich R

    There is no spiritual gift called "the gift of tongues".

    Good post! I have one observation that may be relevant: 1 Cor 12:7-10, 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same...
  7. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Exactly. Regarding Luke 20:21; I just did a teaching on comparing a couple dozen religions (Buddhism, Islam, Hindu, et. al.), with the Bible. All non Biblical religions are all about what people must do for God to reach some form of good afterlife, which afterlife varies with the particular...
  8. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Sorry, but I'm not sure what P1 is.
  9. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    John 9:5 has been translated basically two different ways. Rom 9:5 (KJV), Whose [are] the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ [came], who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. KJV and others make, "God blessed for ever" a separate doxology to God. Punctuation is key...
  10. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Well, those are certainly good verses. I wonder how they fit in with 1 Cor 8:6 and John 17:3. Maybe something to do with agency idea I mentioned? I don't know. But they got fit somehow. God certainly didn't contradict Himself. If He did we're all sunk! :)
  11. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Jesus was sent by God to be our savior (including me). It says just that in several places. Jesus was God's representative or agent. It may be worth while investigating how the Jews understood such agency. Suffice it to say, to them an agent was considered virtually identical in authority to the...
  12. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    What did I say that would make you ask such a question?
  13. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    As you said the Bible does not record anywhere that Jesus actually say, "I am God." Now I don't want to come out and say Jesus is not God, but it does seem rather odd to me that such a fundamental doctrine would not be clearly spelled out. Many say our very salvation depends on a doctrine that...
  14. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Yes. I understand what you say to be true and a currently accepted doctrine in much of the modern orthodox church. However, I think a key element here is you saying, "...most of it's (the church) history..." Most is not the same as all. I would suggest that the 1st century Apostles themselves...
  15. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    You are correct. I've said just that myself at some point. Gentiles are fellowheirs with Israel. Would you say that is quite a different thing than saying they (or anybody else) "replaced" Israel?
  16. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    If I understand you correctly, you are taking Rev 1:1 at face value, i.e. literal, not as figurative. Is that a fair assessment?
  17. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Sidestepping? Maybe you just don't like my responses? BTW, I think you may have sidestepped my post #88. Not that I care or that it makes you some kind of bad person. Just saying.
  18. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    You've done that which you accuse me of, i.e. sidestepping and not answering questions. Your answer does not address the questions I posed to you. How do you know the Gentiles in the OT weren't an allegory for the fallen angels? If all of Revelation is and allegory, why do you believe in a...
  19. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Is all of Revelation to be taken allegorically? If so, why do you believe in a real new heaven and earth? Couldn't that be talking about a new grand city built in the Amazon rain forest?
  20. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    How do you know the Gentiles in the OT weren't an allegory for the fallen angels? And maybe Jesus didn't really come to the earth until the day of Pentecost and that he is still here, that the crucifixion was actually the day Columbus "discovered" America and he won't rise from the dead until...