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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    Be specific about dismissing 2 chapters. I'm not dismissing anything. And to your last question, the bible, which is the complete word of God with warnings contained therein agsinst adding to or taking away from, has definitely ended the need for miraculous spiritual gifts which filled the void...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    To your last point first. Prayer is NOT one of the miraculous gifts or manifestations of the Spirit. The miraculous spiritual gifts are listed in 1 Cor 12:8-10, and prayer isn't one of them. We don't need the gifts listed therein to edify the modern church of the present day. We have the...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    That's exactly correct. The gifts have ceased just as 1 Cor 13:8 said they would. If the gifts haven't ceased, literally, everyone in every church everywhere should be performing miracles, healing people, etc, but instead they're babbling a bunch of gibberish and claiming they have gifts of the...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    What do you think tongues is? Is it not one of the miraculous gifts of the spirit listed in 1 Cor 12:8-10? Aren't miracles on that list as well? You obviously don't want to see what's written there. Goodbye. Believe whatever nonsense you like.
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    You stopped 1 verse short in 6: thru 8 says Stephen then demonstrated various gifts after the laying on of apostle's hands. And 2 things in Acts 8:9-17. One, Simon the sorcerer was a baptized believer who wanted to purchase the gifts after he saw they were manifested by the laying on of the...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    I did on a different response to you.
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    Consider this supplemental also. Sorry for the confusion, but this should address your question on limitations to apostle's hands. Start with John the Baptist's comments in Luke 3:16 regarding baptism with the Holy Ghost and then the Luke 24:49 comment made by Jesus to his apostles telling them...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    Looks like my complete response didn't get posted but only the beginning
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    See my original post wherein it cites the specific scriptures which clearly indicate the miraculous manifestation of gifts were through the apostles hands.
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    This is supplemental to my recent response go you. You are not understanding the difference in receiving the gift (singular) of the Holy Ghost/Spirit as per Acts 2:38, which all baptized believers receive pursuant thereto, and the various miraculous gifts (plural) or manifestations of the Spirit...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    That's the kjv which I happen to like and read from, but look at the origional Greek in the interlinear which says to each, not every man. Also, there are examples in the bible wherein baptized believers did not automatically have the gifts of the Spirit. Also, 1 Cor 12:28 says "God hath set...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    I have explained this previously, the events which occurred in in Acts 2 and similarly in Acts 10. In both instances, the only 2 times recorded in the bible, the Holy Spirit fell miraculously on individuals unilaterally without the laying on of the apostle's hands. In Acts 2, it fell on the...
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    Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

    Goodbye. You make no sense
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    Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

    You make no sense. Being baptized into Christ means being immersed in water. The baptism in Acts 2:38 is identical to the baptism of John in Luke 3:16, Mark1:4, Mat 3:6, John 1:26, in water, in the Jordan River and, for the same reason, the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins...
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    Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

    You said it yourself above: you said "I was baptised INTO Christ. That is where my sins are washed. It is dfone by Gods mercy through the washing and renewal of the Holy Spirit". EXACTLY! you were baptized, immersed in water, for the remission of your sins which is exactly what Acts 2:38 says...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    Here are my comments from above written on response to another member which apply to you as well. I thought I laid it out concisely in my OP. But in a nutshell, the gifts, or enabling of the spirit to manifest itself in certain individuals, was done by the laying on of the apostle's hands, as...
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    Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

    You are 100% totally wrong. Nothing got changed: the bible nowhere says nor infers that. And your comment about Paul not being sent to baptize shows your lack of understanding. Read futher in 1 Cor 3:6. Paul planted and Apollos watered. Paul was the orator.
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    Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

    Once again, you're out to lunch. In the John 3:5 passage, what do you think WATER means, to be born of water? Kool-aid? And read the original Greek interlinear which says "for the forgiveness of sins of you"; "for" is a preposition. They are not forgiven until you are baptized and they are...
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    Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

    You are very wrong . He also told us to believe and be baptized to be saved in Mark16:15-16. He also said as recorded in one of the passages you adhere to, John 3:5, that you must be born of WATER and of the Spirit. Acts 2:38 clearly spells that out: that you must be baptized for the remission...