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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Do you think the sons of God mentioned here are flesh sons of God? Job 38:4 Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 5 Who set its measurements, in case you know, Or who stretched a measuring line across it? 6 Into what were its pedestals sunk, Or who...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Apply your own words to yourself: It's sad. What need do you have to twist Jesus' words? They are not to be interpreted but to be accepted.
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    I mind what Jesus said and that is what is important. Jesus clarifies that he was with the Father before coming to the world, and also describes his return to where he was before: a coming and a returning to the same place. John 6:62 What, therefore, should you see the Son of Man ascending to...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    That's what I say: it's very simple, and who is complicating things for some? John 3:13 Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man. (...) 31 The one who comes from above is over all others. The one who is from the earth is from the earth and...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    These other words of Jesus recorded by John are strikingly clear on the question of when God sent his Son into the world. John 16:28 ἐξῆλθον παρὰ τοῦ πατρὸς καὶ ἐλήλυθα εἰς τὸν κόσμον· πάλιν ἀφίημι τὸν κόσμον καὶ πορεύομαι πρὸς τὸν πατέρα. (NIV) I came from the Father and entered the world...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Are you seriously trying to question that it was the power of the spirit of God that made the miracle of Jesus' human conception possible?
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    That's funny. It is you who seems not to accept what they clearly state. I am not "imposing" anything into the text. You need to accept what you read. Com'on, really? Give me your best shot at explaining to yourself what each of those quotes means. Just do it, and let's see who is imposing...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    The Word existed in heaven, had the form of God, and was at God's side. He was sent from there, and that is why there was no biological father at his conception: he already existed, and it was only a matter of being miraculously born in a new form, a human one. Phil. 2:6 who, although he was...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    That's your doctrine, but you are not presenting any Scripture to prove... These things Jesus said: John 3:13 Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man. (...) 31 The one who comes from above is over all others. The one who is from the earth...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Not an Emanationist nor an Adoptionist. The Word was another Son of God in heaven, the principal among millions of others sons of God in spirit form, who came to exist before the physical world in which we live.
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    The Bible says that God sent his Son. Jesus was born the Son of God, because he had no biological father. So an interesting question is: when did God send his Son: when he was born, or when he was baptized?
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    No one should accept someone else's whim that isn't even directly justified by Scripture. It's more accurate to consider Jesus the Word of God because he is His spokesperson, not because he is His power, as you say. What does "the Word" have to do with power? Of course, anyone can invent...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    The Word in John 1:1 was another spirit person next to God, not an abstract thing. We know that because before writing John 1, John already knew that the Word is a name of Jesus in heaven: Rev. 19:11 I saw heaven opened, and look! a white horse. And the one seated on it is called Faithful and...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Some people imagine that John says what his own mind tells them but, he doesn't say that anywhere.
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    The Bible says "The Word was with God" and "God was the Word", and then says "the Word became flesh and lived among us." Later, it says "No one has seen God". It doesn't say anywhere that "God became flesh." In fact, in Phil. 2:6,7 I learned that although Jesus had the form of God before being...
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    What about Shoal and judgment Day?

    The end of this system, where humans are ruled by humans and the devil and his angels pull the strings of this world, will come at a specific time. Before that day arrives, other things will happen that will indicate that this time is approaching. This destruction is God's judgment upon the...
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    Jesus is God

    Psal. 45 was originally written about a human king. Prophetically speaks about Jesus, Ok; but the interpretation of the Psal. IS NOT God calling God that king like some people read on their versions, because God won't call anyone God since HE is the God of gods. Please, think better. Other...
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    Jesus is God

    Let me ask you a favor that will help the discussion on this matter flow more smoothly: when quoting from the Old Testament, quote from a version that contains the name Jehovah where the Tetragrammaton appears. Reading the Old Testament, no one should be confused by thinking of Jesus when it...
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    Jesus is God

    Think better. Psal. 45 was written about a human king. Did God call "God" a human? Besides that, there is no way someone who receive everything he got is equal to the One who give everything to him. Some people are just not even trying to reason better.
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    Jesus is God

    I know the things Jesus taught his followers. After his resurrection, he said to his disciples: John 20:17 Jesus said to her: “(...) I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” Some...