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TS, not sure that I quite agree! Why do you believe that judgment of the church is Christ first coming invisibly, and later physically for the whole world in a second coming? While I agree judgment must begin at the house of God, and I also believe this judgment is spiritual, I don't liken it...

I don't claim that! That is what the Bible says! That's why I said just as the global flood waters cleansed the earth, so too the global fire from heaven shall also.

It doesn't say until the blindness is lifted then all ethnic Israel shall be saved. It says, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. Gentiles of faith together with Israel of faith is the manner in which "all Israel shall be saved." Clearly not ethnic Israel in partial blindness...

God preserved the earth when the flood of Noah's day covered the globe. But every living creature upon the earth was utterly destroyed. It shall be the same in the end of this age when the fiery wrath of God comes down out of heaven to burn up every living creature upon the earth. Then the...

I agree! It will be when the last Gentile is saved, there will be no more to be saved. Ethnic Israel, like Gentiles MUST be saved in this the age of God's grace. Because when the Kingdom of God in heaven is complete when the fullness of the Gentiles has been saved, the seventh/last trumpet...

Until what? The fullness of Gentiles has come in. Nowhere does Paul write then every ethnic Jew will be saved. In fact Paul says the exact opposite. Now is the day/age/time for man to be saved, and once the fullness of both Jews & Gentiles have been saved then shall come the end! Not more...

I have no problem understanding how Paul and Peter were both looking in these last days for the last day of the Lord the prophets foretold would come, to come to an end. Of course, they focus on the last day of the Lord because they had been alive to see the day of the Lord that came when...

Yes, the Kingdom of God is here now! Not physically, which shall never be on this earth, but spiritually His Kingdom is within believers!

You'll have to be more specific??? I don't see where Paul ever says that when the last Gentile is saved the blindness shall be lifted??? That's called reading your doctrine into the passage, rather than allowing the passage to speak truth.

You simply ignore all the prophets of Old foretell MUST come to pass when this promised day of the Lord would come in these last days. They write not only of the first advent of Messiah to come, followed by the whole New Covenant period of time when they write what shall be, they also write of...

The prophesy begins with the day of the Lord that was coming, and all that follows pertains to all that shall come to pass in that day/age these "last days"! Joel 2:1 (KJV) Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the...

Where does Paul write the blindness in part shall be removed? Paul says only that when the fullness of the Gentiles come in, "all Israel shall be saved." That alone proves Israel in view in not ethnic Jews or unbelieving Jews in hardness, rather Paul is saying Israel that shall be saved is...

There shall never be a literal/physical Kingdom of God upon this earth! If the Kingdom of God were established on this earth it would not be forever, as Christ has promised! Because everything physical upon this earth is destined to utter destruction through the fiery flames that shall come...

Christ is reigning over those who believe in Him in North Korea. North Korea like every other nation of the world except Israel are Gentiles. It is through Gentiles of faith, even those Gentiles in North Korea that Christ is reigning over. Where did you ever get the idea that Christ would...

Romans 15:9-12 (KJV) And that the Gentiles [nations] might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, [nations] and sing unto thy name. And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, [nations] with his people. And again, Praise the Lord...

Again, you're confusing the final day of the Lord and the day of the Lord that came with the first advent of Christ, the last day of the Lord that shall come when the last trumpet sounds is the end of the day of the Lord, not the beginning. How can you possibly, remember the prophet writing of...

It matters because you are aligning your doctrine with that of Premillennialism. You continue to argue the day of the Lord the prophets foretell is the final day of the Lord the New Testament writes is when Christ comes again. You've argued that you don't see the day of the Lord linked with the...

Yes, this is probably right! This understanding did not occur to me until it finally did. Since I don't consider myself to be uniquely gifted to understand biblical doctrine others cannot understand, perhaps it will change. Thanks.

This is how I read the Prophets of Old also! I think many cannot see this because the prophets only anticipate ONE day (age) of the Lord the promised Messiah, Christ our Lord would come in. Though the Prophets of Old prophesy about the utter destruction that shall come when Christ comes again...

This places the day of the Lord the prophets foretell coming AFTER time (a thousand years) has expired! That would make the day of the Lord coming lasting only for a little season! This little season is the time given to Satan to gather together the ALL who are deceived to make one last attempt...