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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Young's Literal Translation agrees with King James. I have very little confidence in modern translations of Scripture like the NASB a translation of the Bible in contemporary English. Published by the Lockman Foundation, the complete NASB was released in 1971. New revisions were published in...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    You agree the last days began with the first coming of Christ and continue until the second coming. Do you also agree with Peter quoting the prophet Joel saying Pentecost marks the beginning of "the day of the Lord"? Peter, quoting from the Prophet Joel says this prophesy of Joel of the day of...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    A pretty good spiritual catch David! ALL nations are not gathered together to battle against the earthly city Jerusalem! ALL nations spiritually is speaking of ALL the enemies of Christ and His Church coming together to battle against the spiritual Jerusalem above. This has been true from the...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    When I speak of things the prophets of Old foretell as needing to be spiritually discerned, I'm saying the physical/literal things the Old Covenant prophets foretell would be forever can only be correctly understood through literal but spiritual fulfillment. Consider for instance this verse...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    No David, I don't believe the final day of the Lord has yet come, bringing much dread and fear with it. For that final day of the Lord shall indeed be a great and dreadful day for those who remain in unbelief, and for the saints still alive before the Lord comes it will be a time of great...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    The last days are the day of the Lord! That's why the prophets foretell of ALL that shall come to pass during these last days that are the day/age/time of the Lord. The time when the promised Messiah foretold to come came to fulfill all that was written of Him. The day of the Lord is the...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    What is your understanding of the prophecy from Joel, that according to Peter began to be fulfilled when the Spirit was poured out on all flesh, meaning not only to Jews, but Gentile believers also? Writing of the day of the Lord that is coming and near at hand, the prophet Joel says in those...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    You're confusing the day of the Lord the prophets of Old foretell would come and the last day of the Lord the New Testament shows will bring an end to this age of time (a/the thousand years) called the day of the Lord. The day of the Lord the prophets of Old foretell began with the first advent...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Always when the New Testament prophesies of the day of the Lord it is the LAST day of the Lord that that shall be when Christ comes again. Always when the Old Testament prophets prophesy of the day of the Lord they foresaw ONE age to come which came with the advent of Christ and shall end when...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    The problem for you David is that you appear to be heavily reliant upon Chatgpt, and neither of you can believe that which can only be spiritually discerned. Why? Apparently because neither of you are guided by the Spirit of Christ! I know for certain that Chatgpt is NOT! I notice you have no...
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    8 days, the 8th day leading to a new beginning.

    Is the eighth day the first day of the new week, or is it the beginning of the new sabbath? When Christ arose from the tomb the sabbath of Old came to an end, and a new sabbath, belonging to Christ began. Week in this verse is interpreted from the same Greek word σάββατον sábbaton...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    The day of the Lord the prophets foretell has come, is coming and shall be complete in the LAST DAY of the day of the Lord. You're trying to split the words of the prophets into two separate ages of time to fit your premillennial view. But the prophets foretell only of ONE age of time they...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    David, do you really believe the day of the Lord the prophets of Old foretell would come is only on the day when the Lord shall return again? Because that is what these verses of the sun becoming dark and the moon becoming blood pertain to. The day of the Lord the prophets all foretell would...
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    The Meaning Of “NO MORE” In Revelation

    This is what I refer to as a cop out David! It's not questioning the power of God over Satan to QUOTE Scripture! Do you really not understand that it was the nations (Gentiles) not Jews (Israel of Old) that did NOT have the knowledge of being saved before the advent of Christ? The text...
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    The Meaning Of “NO MORE” In Revelation

    What have you proven here David? Answer the question as to how any Gentile from the nations is NOW being saved as the gospel of the Kingdom of God is being proclaimed? Because you say "Satan can't deceive anyone during the millennium"! If binding is the only way to prevent Satan from...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    I agree! The measuring of the temple is symbolic. God doesn't have to measure those who worship therein, because God knows those who belong to Him, true faithful saints. I believe this symbolizes those who come out of "all the tribes of the children of Israel". The 144,000 who were sealed, a...
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    FAITH IS NOT A GIFT

    How did the Gentile, Abraham believe God? Was it not in the same way whosoever among mankind believes? Abraham could not have faith to believe on Him whom he had not heard. But Abraham did hear the gospel preached to Him by God. According to grace through imputed faith Abraham believed God...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    Why would John be told to measure the temple of Old? It makes more sense that John is instructed to measure the True Temple that is the body of Christ. IOW the Church as She existed on the earth before being sent out (two witnesses) to preach the gospel of the Kingdom of God that is being...
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    FAITH IS NOT A GIFT

    Ephesians 2:8 (KJV) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: John 6:29 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. Why would anyone try to separate faith from believing? Faith...
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    The Meaning Of “NO MORE” In Revelation

    What kind of a question is this? You need to ask how any Gentile throughout the world is being saved if Satan has not already been bound that he can no longer deceive ALL the nations (people) no more? You could also ask if the binding of Satan when using the whole Bible indicates the world...