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I don't view it like that (one of discomfort) I will say however that the severity of God seen independent of Jesus informs the logic of man's disposition to violence. For example, consider the amount of posts on hell and punishment and their justifications as opposed to presenting Jesus so that...

We must see Jesus through the Father's eyes and we must see the Father through Jesus' eyes. This will give us balance. Any other view (and there are many) distort, malign and misrepresent the heart of God......irrespective of how learned or pious they appear.

Well there yer go...you've decided on labels (they become your defining 'end of story') and more than that, your definition of labels informs you without understanding HOW and WHY others use them...in their context.

You are spinning off into all sorts of imagining and projection Behold.

It is.....a label with baggage. The type of baggage is determined by the one doing the defining. Watch Brad's clip....you don't need or have to concede anything. Not having seen it and relying on the reports of others only puts you into the category warned by the texts you quoted below

The Gospel is Gods message of kindness to fallen mankind. Does that fit into Calvin or Luther's legal model or Mother Teresa's hospital model? What I know is that God is kind even to those who murder him.

So there you go, you validate my previous statement about 'labelling'...post #231

Did you watch Brad's 'Gospel in Chairs' presentation?

You see them as bombs instead of prompts to consider what is said.

or is your projection a defence mechanism because you refuse to or can't answer my questions

Did you say you did a course for certification or was it purchased on eBay at discount?

The fact that you short circuit in your mind by labelling (the validity of that label in your mind allows you to negate thinking objectively) creates fertile soil for all manner of justification.....whether it be thoughts, conclusions or actions.

Do you even know what born again means Behold ?

Is it a surprise? Blaming this party or that party is part of the play book. Look at what the Nations do, subvert the truehearted, dominate, colonise, exploit etc. Why throw our hands up in shock horror as if it wasn't known this stuff is coming down the pike?

All humanity...in particular, those who believe. All are dead in their sins.

The biggest tragedy in the Universe is that many for whom Jesus died, resurrected and ascended, turn their back on the greatest gift given to bumbling, fumbling, rebellious men and women. God's GIFT is not ratified because men accept it. It is ratified by Jesus death, resurrection and ascension...

Romans 5:15-19....five verses which tell us the same thing five times....just so we don't miss it. ALL in Adam and ALL in Christ. Subsequently the Good News which all who believe are privileged to share. If one does not believe this the only thing left is to give advice, ie to tell people what...

Romans 8 is a continuation of Romans 7. The word 'therefore' is indicative of this. Who is it that is in Christ Jesus? ...all who are in Adam...as explained in Romans 5:12-19 My question; who was it that slew the lambs taken to the temple/ sanctuary by the individuals who presented the lambs...

Of course you have your hoops. How many are in the collection now? Jesus loves me this I know for the bible tells me so. I guess my immaturity which gives hope and peace refuses the piling up hoop jumping exercises!

Let's hope you are qualified to be not be fried by the flaming fire of vengeance.....that flaming fire of Love which consumes hatred and that those who call for the rocks and the mountains to fall on them cannot bear to face.