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Peter NOT the 1st pope: Analysis Matthew 16 - Peter and the keys of the kingdom Matthew 16 analysis - Peter being the first so-called pope and provided with the keys of the kingdom Matthew 16:15-19 - Catholics erroneously use these verses, and primarily verse 19, as rationale and...

But too, its a moot point because the thief couldn't have possibly been baptized into Christ since Christ was still alive. He could have been baptized unto John's baptism, but that's not the same as being baptized into Christ.

It's one of the requirements for salvation. Goodbye

Baptism is a sign? A public display of faith as some claim? An outward expression, blah, blah, blah also as some claim? When the Ethiopian eunuch was baptized by Philip, who was there for his baptism to be an outward sign to? It wad the eunuch and Philip. You can disregard the scriptures if you...

Ability to be baptized is not an issue. You must be. The scriptures don't provide a caveat. You either are or you're not. And it was impossible for the thief on the cross to have been baptized because Jesus was yet alive. He couldn't be baptized into Christ. He could have possibly been baptized...

To dhh712: you are way off on your thinking and understanding. Baptism is not a sign, it's a requirement. It's not a 'nice to do if and when I have time thing', it's an absolute necessity or you'll be lost. How do you get into the body of Christ which is the Lord's church? By scripture, not by...

Maybe you weren't clear or I misunderstood. What I thought you said was as long as your intent or desire was to be baptized, that was good enough even though you actually weren't. If that's what you meant, you are wrong and contrary to scripture which says nothing about intent or desire, but...

Don't know what you mean exactly, but what I can tell you about the "Christian" audience in general is that there is a dearth of knowledge and understanding on this topic as well as many others.

Never thought about it nor does it matter to me. I simply follow the words of the bible. Call it what you will when one strictly adheres to God's word.

Sorry. That's unscriptural and is actually contrary to scripture.

"In Christ": What does it really mean? The words “in Christ” and similar, i.e.; “in Jesus Christ”, “in Christ Jesus”, “in him’, are used ad nauseam within the Christian world with hardly anyone ever giving any thought whatsoever as to what the words really mean or entail, thus relegating them...

If he was baptized it would have been unto John's baptism. He couldn't have been baptized into Christ because Christ was still alive.

Isaiah 59:2 2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Isaiah 55:8-9 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts You'll have to ask God why he does what he does.

It makes no sense and conflicts with scripture. God doesn't play games.

No

Just to clarify that we shouldn't obey and be baptized "if we're alive and have the chance", but rather we MUST obey and be baptized, otherwise we're lost. It's not an option.

To mailmandan: Well, you're very wrong. Mark16:15-16 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Clearly says belief + baptism = salvation 1Peter...