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    What is the "SIGN" of the Son of Man - Poll

    Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. Isn’t this verse telling us that the Son of man came with the clouds to the Father (Ancient of days)?
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    What is the "SIGN" of the Son of Man - Poll

    Yea, and I would say Jerusalem being surrounded by armies was a “sign”. Luke 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the...
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    The Sun, God's tool to change the World

    Think about it @Keraz, if the plagues are literal there are too many things that don’t make sense. For example, perhaps a conversation between the two witnesses might go something like this … Witness 1 ) good morning, what do you want to do today? Witness 2 ) I don’t know, how about a CME...
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    The Sun, God's tool to change the World

    I agree, Revelation 16:9 says God has power over the plagues. But Revelation 11:6 says the two witnesses have power to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will and in verse 3 it says “I will give power unto my two witnesses”. If CME is a plague then the two witnesses have the...
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    The Sun, God's tool to change the World

    Hey Keraz, in Revelation 11:6 the two witnesses have the power to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. If the plagues are literal then shouldn’t we expect the two witnesses to cause CMEs to hit the earth also?
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    The Great Commission,.....the end of the age – Done!

    Yea, I’m definitely an analytical thinker and sometimes when I debate it seems obvious to me that a certain point can’t be true, yet the other person may have no problems with their point being logically impossible.
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    The Great Commission,.....the end of the age – Done!

    Ok, thanks. Something off topic here, I have noticed, since becoming a Christian, that people who are analytical and think more logically tend to be preterist and those who seem to be more emotional or enjoy drama and the hype of things being fulfilled before their eyes, tend to be Premil. Not...
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    The Great Commission,.....the end of the age – Done!

    I find this very interesting, I certainly don’t think that I’m being lead to be some kind of missionary and your statement fits how I personally see the Spirt leading me “The Spirit of holiness, within us, each and every believer, act as an instrument of God’s purpose that causes each one...
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    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    And we also need to keep in mind that where our Lord was crucified became as Sodom and Egypt at some point in time.
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    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Ok, I don’t want to get too far off the topic of the thread, you bring up some very valid points. There are also quite a few things that line up with the book of Esther, so much so that I personally think there has to be some kind of connection (type/antitype or foreshadowing) between the events...
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    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    I have a lot of notes on Esther, here’s some arguments for an Ezekiel 38:21 fulfillment. One of the arguments on Ezekiel 38:21 is that every man’s sword against his brother is referring to the Persian army sent by Haman. And ESTHER 8:17, 9:3 Many Persians decided to not destroy the Jews, but...
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    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    The counter argument to that is that <319> doesn’t always mean latter day. Genesis 49:1 And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days <319>. The phrase “in the last days” is the same phrase used in Ezekiel...
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    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Ok, thanks for the explanations and pointing out the Ezekiel 7:2-3 four corners definition. I was aware of the LXX use of the word “Gog” or “Gogite” instead of “Agag” or “Agagite”. Some time ago I did look at Ezekiel chapters 38 - 39 being fulfilled in Esther where Haman is called an Gogite...
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    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    In Colossians 1:23 (written around 62AD) it says the gospel was preached to every creature under heaven. Wouldn’t this mean that Satan was unable to deceive after the millennium if it ended in 33AD? In Revelation 20:8-9 it appears Satan is successful in deceiving the nations since they compass...
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    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Ok, very good, I agree with what you’re saying. I’m having a hard time seeing the millennium being a 968-967 BC to 33 AD event. In Revelation 20:3 Satan is cast into the pit with a seal put upon him. In Revelation 12:7 the war in heaven is between Michael and the dragon (Satan) and their...
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    Paul taught that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality

    Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. This verse would seem to fit with the time that the millennium...
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    God shall add unto him the plagues

    If the Antichrist and false prophet are both destroyed prior to the MK then how can the unclean frog like spirits come out of their mouths after the MK?
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    God shall add unto him the plagues

    What about Revelation 19:20? When are the beast and false prophet cast into the lake of fire, before the millennium or after the millennium? I agree that all the unbelievers are going to be judged, no one will escape that. What ever the punishment that is determined will be just.
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    God shall add unto him the plagues

    I agree, it’s not just those who have added to the book that get the plagues. If I’m understanding you correctly then you have the last plagues/bowls being poured out after the millennium and the second coming also taking place after the millennium. We do see the rest of the dead live again...
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    God shall add unto him the plagues

    So are you saying that the last plagues literally happen twice? Once before the millennium and again after the millennium? Revelation 16:13-14 spirits come out of the beast and false prophet and go forth to the kings of the earth. In Revelation 19:20 the beast and false prophet are cast into...