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  1. ProDeo

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Content might help Acts 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place in which they were gathered together was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and continued to speak the word of God with boldness. Acts 4:33 And with great power the apostles were giving their testimony to the...
  2. ProDeo

    Bible Salesman

    Glad we agree on that. Now I assume your spiritual insight is good and based on that I have a rhetoric question for you - How can it be a human can remain sinless ?
  3. ProDeo

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    I already told you, He would have provided the means. And Jesus did not. Case closed.
  4. ProDeo

    Bible Salesman

    In the other thread (now rightly closed) I asked you a simple question : And your shocking answer : Depends on how you look at it. Of course the answer is NO. Basic Christianity. How can Jesus being the needed blameless sacrificial Lamb to take away (pay for) your sins and the sins of the...
  5. ProDeo

    The way we live is wrong

    On the red you are exactly right. Consider reading the first 3 chapters of the Bible and especially the Genesis 3 chapter. Mankind was created to live in Paradise in the presence of God, a place of peace, harmony, love, a place without death. Then Adam & Eve were seduced by the devil and...
  6. ProDeo

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Do you think Jesus before Matt 3:16 was a sinner like us?
  7. ProDeo

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Jesus called Himself, a) the Son of man, b) the Son of God, all true, He was also God the Son, it's all over the NT and even in the OT.
  8. ProDeo

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    ProDeo wrote : You answered : Even after the Fall in Eden, mankind removed from the presence of the Lord, the Lord God repeated : Gen 9:6 “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image. Everyone is created in God's image, not everyone is...
  9. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Okay, I am focused. If Jesus really meant to eat his flesh and drink his blood He would have given you the means. And He did not. So the RCC invented transubstantiation to make it work. Transubstantiation is nowhere in Scripture.
  10. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    You are impossible :grinning: but I do like impossible people. One more try and then you may have the last word on the issue. Matt 26:26 Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” Jesus gave...
  11. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Meaning that Lev 17:10-14 is no longer valid ??? Lev 17:10 “If any one of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in...
  12. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    John 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. John 13:15 For I have given you an example, that you also should do just as I have done to you. Does the RCC follow this commandment of Jesus? Jesus said it literally.
  13. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    John 13 (the whole chapter) is very interesting, it is also about the last supper, but the story takes a different direction, Jesus washing the feet of the disciples. And that would mean for the literalist among us another holy institution, because Jesus says : John 13:14 If I then, your Lord...
  14. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    @all Lev 17:10 “If any one of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the...
  15. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    John 6:22 On the next day the crowd that remained on the other side of the sea saw that there had been only one boat there, and that Jesus had not entered the boat with his disciples, but that his disciples had gone away alone. John 6:23 Other boats from Tiberias came near the place where they...
  16. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Regarding the value of the Last Supper, my understanding of course. Luke 22:14 And when the hour came, he reclined at table, and the apostles with him. Luke 22:15 And he said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. And the Church rightly took notice of...
  17. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I don't think our RCC friends walked away, they misunderstand the John 6 passage. Is it not interesting the last Supper isn't even mentioned in the gospel of John ?
  18. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Regarding those who left, I think the crux is : John 6:65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.” Referring to v44 John 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    The Exodus lamb was an animal.