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  1. ProDeo

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    I am raised in that belief also, I no longer believe that. Scripture is written by men, Scripture is composed by men. 1700 years ago it was decided by men, this is the Holy Bible, the Canon. There wasn't a voice from heaven -> “This is my beloved WORD, with whom I am well pleased.” On the...
  2. ProDeo

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    In a nutshell, massive reading, hardly examples of alleged bad translations / copy errors / alleged additions. In a nutshell, massive reading, hardly examples of alleged bad translations / copy errors / alleged additions.
  3. ProDeo

    A bit of a mess in the White House.

    In the White House Zelensky did not have the cards. In Alaska it was Trump who did not have the cards.
  4. ProDeo

    What Does it Mean…..?

    Rom 8:16 - The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, Not true for you ?
  5. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    So you think (believe) because some priest decided to organize a Roman Catholic Eucharist on a specific date and time Jesus is obliged to show up at that date and time?
  6. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    On the part I colored blue, the word catholic in Greek means "universal" or "all-inclusive", the body of Christ. Not to be confused with the Roman Catholic, just one of the many branches. The early Church started well, things went wrong when the church became a state religion.
  7. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    If Jesus is really in the substance as you believe then you would fall flat on your face because of His holiness.
  8. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    That and nothing more.
  9. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Good catch.
  10. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    From : https://usccb.cld.bz/Catechism-of-the-Catholic-Church/364/#zoom=true 1367 - The Eucharist is thus a sacrifice because it re-presents (makes present) the sacrifice of the cross, because it is its memorial and because it applies its fruit." 1368 - The sacrifice of Christ and the...
  11. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    So what is it ? 1. a "re-sacrifice" of Christ 2. or a "re-offering" of Christ’s sacrifice 3. or a “re-presentation” of Christ’s sacrifice I think I understand John 6:22-71 quite different than you, the main theme is about v44, 65 and the proof in v70. John 6:44 - No one can come to me unless...
  12. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Thanks for sharing what you believe. As for a comparison, consider what Jesus also said - Matt 18:20 - For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.” We are here gathered in His name, do you like in the Eucharist also believe in transubstantiation here ? Sorry for the...
  13. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    @BreadOfLife I am trying to understand the Roman Catholic principle of the Eucharist. John 6:54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. John 6:55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. John 6:56 Whoever feeds on...
  14. ProDeo

    How to Fail God : by "works".

    Matt 5:20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. What did Jesus mean?
  15. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I don't think Jesus gave the criminal a puzzle to solve, but a clear not misunderstood promise, today you will with me in Paradise.
  16. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    You are overlooking Matt 27 - Matt 27:50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit. Matt 27:51 And behold, the curtain of the temple was torn in two, from top to bottom. And the earth shook, and the rocks were split. Matt 27:52 The tombs also were opened. And many...
  17. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    What about - Luke 23:43 - And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”
  18. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I believe that as well, God looks at the heart and what's in there, not our (beloved) doctrines. I once held a poll on my first Bible forum that no longer exists, after a couple of years I noticed a pattern, there were about 10 subjects (doctrines) that kept coming back and back in an endless...
  19. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    And about intercession : Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. Rom 8:27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the...
  20. ProDeo

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Among other things, what's the proof Mary even hears you, Scripture please.