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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    A born again does not sin. A sinner is not born again (anymore or has never been). This is spiritual birth of which we are talking, not a physical birth that cannot be reversed. Jesus said to Nicodemus what is flesh is flesh, what is spirit is spirit. No mixing of categories. To be born *again*...
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    Yes agree entirely. Yes but we now have the choice whereas before we came to Christ, we do not. Scripture is full of warnings about this very thing. If indeed we are of the Spirit, ie walking therein, we do not sin, in thought word or deed. So when we come to the conundrum of scripture saying...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    The physical body ie cells, can only take part in behaviour that is against the will of God, if it is governed by the flesh, the anti-Spiritual power that we are under if we sin and that includes the thoughts as Jesus said. If we are in the Spirit in reality, then the flesh is dead and has no...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    The Spirit leads us into all truth which is reality as prescribed by God. If we think we are without sin, yet our thought life betrays that belief then we are not in God's reality.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    The spiritual pathway has rules just like anything in the physical realm. We know we are on the right path if we find His dealings in the Israelites and the disciples is similar to ours and matching that of spiritual believers through history. The guideposts will be the same as we are liable to...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    The change is to our flesh, that is everything that is against the Spirit, no longer subject to spiritual death or the corruption of sin. Different perspective. Scripture says that glorification is in this life. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Our spirit witnesses that we are born again of God, a new creation, and free from sin.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. In the Spirit we are living in reality. Agreed. Flesh being all that is opposed to...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Yes when we are born again and our spirit witnesses it.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Galatians 2:20 King James Version 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    So you don't think Paul was saved?
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Flesh is full of corruption that is why it has to go to the cross.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Sorry marks, I am speaking to other readers too when I write. It all happened on the cross. It is just a matter of having it made a reality. But there is a point of entering in, whereby we reckon it is so. Stepping out in faith as it were. I remember the day that it felt like stepping of the...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    The inner man is the spirit - our core. The outer man is where we relate to the world and the flesh in my understanding.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @marks: Very plainly Paul wrote that he was not a qualified judge himself to say he had no sin. He also said, again quite plainly, that he had "not yet attained". He also wrote that God will be working in us throughout our lives bringing us to completion. Many cling to the verses, and others...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    The details of it all are not to be the subjects of debate or intellectual understanding. Holiness teachers will often disagree. We find out on the journey and the most important thing if we want to get there, is to listen to the Holy Spirit carefully, especially on the 'little things' and begin...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    "Paul states in his letter to the Romans that there was something “in the members” of his body that he calls “my flesh,” which produced difficulty in his Christian life and made him a prisoner of sin. Martin Luther, in his preface to the book of Romans, commented on Paul’s use of “flesh” by...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @marks The 'outer-man' needs to be broken, the body of sin. In its unbroken state it prevents the spirit from flowing out in its purity. It mixes with the prominent feature of the outer man which is our main characteristic. The Lord shines His light and we see this and it is burned away for...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @marks I believe that your understanding of 'flesh' is not scriptural. It is used for the physical body agreed, but it is also used as the whole old nature which is to be crucified with Christ. This is going to take some doing so will get back tomorrow.