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  1. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    I'm just wary of 'translations' that add to God's word - it can all too easily lead people to go off on tangents of misunderstanding. Unfortunately most popular does not necessarily mean most accurate and truthful translation. We need to be aware of how trustworthy each translation is...
  2. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    That's what the Jews said, but don't forget that Jesus told them that the Son of Man of could forgive sins too (Matthew 9:6), and that the judgement of everybody has been given to Jesus (John 5:22) (and resurrected Christians will judge angels - 1 Corinthians 6:3).
  3. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    It's interesting that you have picked the only translation that translates it as "have been fulfilled" (and not mention which translation it is - the NLT, which is derived from the Living Bible, which is a personal paraphrase and not a translation). Clearly not all of God's promises have been...
  4. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    The Ezekiel passage is the same as Jeremiah 31. It is God saying to Israel that He will bring them back to the Promised Land and make a new covenant with them: Ezekiel 36 (WEB): (22) “Therefore tell the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord Yahweh: “I don’t do this for your sake, house of...
  5. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    Thank you for your comments. As you might presume, I see it differently. ;) Jeremiah 31:31 is referring to a new covenenant for the Jews only. The chapter has God telling how He will bring the Israelites back to the Promised Land. In the last verse of chapter 30 God says, "In the latter days...
  6. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    This is the Angel Of God speaking to Joseph (not Mary), saying that the boy's father is God (the Holy Spirit - verse 20) and that the boy should be called Jesus (that is, 'YHVH is the Saviour'), and that Jesus would save God's people (Israel) from their sins (not save them from the Roman or...
  7. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    Jesus means "YHVH is salvation" (Online Bible Hebrew Lexicon) or "YHVH saved" (Strong's Hebrew Lexicon). The Hebrew name Yëhowshuwa‘ (or Jehoshua) comes from words YHVH and yasha', which means 'save', 'saviour' or 'deliverer'. So it could also mean 'YHVH saves' or 'YHVH is saviour'. Naming...
  8. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    Luke 2:30 - what has Simeon (to whom the Holy Spirit revealed that before he died he would see God's Messiah) saying to God while holding the baby Jesus, "for my eyes have seen your salvation", got to do with Mary? No reverence is given to the mothers of any of the Old Testament prophets and...
  9. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    Your powers of deduction and logic are appalling! Luke 1:35 is referring to a one-off event that resulted in the conception of Jesus. There is absolutely no reason to suppose that if Mary had another child, with Joseph as the father, that the child would be God. Remember - "God is not a man...
  10. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to insult you. I was just trying to emphasise the importance of giving attention to the details, otherwise it can lead to misunderstanding. :)
  11. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    I didn't write post #831 - 'theefaith' did. Again you seem to be imagining that theefaith and me are the same person - we're not! 'theefaith' is a Roman Catholic, he has declared himself to be so. I am not. #834 is a post by theefaith. #830 is a post by me. If you can get simple things...
  12. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    I don't know why you would make that comment - it should be obvious that I am not a member of the Roman Catholic church and that I disagree with a lot of their stated beliefs. Some people on this forum have even thought that I was a Jehovah's Witness (but I'm not)! My only claim would be that...
  13. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    Abraham had righteousness imputed upon him, so he was justified, but his sins were still not forgiven, so he was not saved. The whole merit of Jesus' sacrifice has, so far, only been applied to Christians, so only they currently have their sins forgiven. Nobody has yet been saved. Christians...
  14. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    As I said previously, nobody could become a Christian before Jesus started his ministry, when he was aged about 30 years old. Mary outlived Jesus and she believed Jesus, so of course she was (or became) a Christian. The same applies to Jesus' brothers and the other apostles - it's not that...
  15. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    Perhaps we should define what we mean by being 'saved'. Everyone is saved from death, the first death, as a result of Jesus' sacrifice of his life as the substitute for Adam, and as Jesus has paid the redemption price therefore all of mankind will be resurrected back to life again. Christians...
  16. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    There's a difference between being saved before you die, which means you must become a true Christian before you die, and being saved during the Millennium, after being resurrected. For example, the first person that you mentioned, Simeon, was a Jew, and the implication is that he died shortly...
  17. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    More to the point, you seem at last to be acknowledging that not all Old Testament prophecies were fulfilled at Jesus' first advent, so you were wrong to declare in post #772 that my statement of "There are many prophecies still yet to be fulfilled" was not true. The Isaiah 2 prophecy says...
  18. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    I don't think that's how the ancient Israelites believed the kingdom would be. For example, they expected their king come to them riding on a donkey (so he was a physical man) who would then reign from Jerusalem, but there has not been, nor currently is there a human king reigning in Jerusalem...
  19. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    Daniel's prophecy refers to a literal kingdom on the Earth, that God's kingdom will destroy. Daniel 2:39-44 (WEB): (39) “After you, another kingdom will arise that is inferior to you; and another third kingdom of brass, which will rule over all the earth. (40) The fourth kingdom will be...
  20. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    Paul is talking about the change from human bodies to spirit being bodies - it is nothing to do with kingdoms. When did this new kingdom of God "break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms" on the Earth, which we still see today? :rolleyes: