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Revelation 20:5 the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished <5055>. Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired <5055> Satan shall be loosed out of his prison. Both Satans little season and the rest of the dead live after the thousand years are...

So the day after the thousand years are ended are the rest of the dead alive or not? If not, then they don’t live again after the thousand years are finished which is in contradiction to Revelation 20/5.

I think those who were beheaded is referring to the old covenant/Old Testament saints and when Christ died they were beheaded as in their Messiah was cut off. Some of the old covenant people did recognize Jesus as the Messiah and they lived and reigned with Christ while alive on earth as Marty...

The text says they do live after the thousand years, you must be incorrect about something else if you have them not living after the thousand years. Revelation 20:5 says But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. If there’s no gap then how are you...

Well unless you insert a gap, like the gap some people insert between the 69th and 70th weeks, then the the rest of the dead live after the thousand years are finished, they don’t remain dead until after Satans little season.

The issue isn’t with the martyred saints it’s with the rest of the dead. The rest of the dead live after the millennium, at the same time Satans little season happens. I’m not sure how you view this event, maybe the spirits of the unbelievers come to life and roam the earth during Satans...

Well this is the first time I’ve come across a two different millennium theory. I personally don’t think that idea is supported.

But insisting the souls seen by John are people who have physically died creates the problem of the rest of the dead living again when Satans little season starts.

What is the source you’re are using to determine the meaning of beheaded in Revelation 20:4? Strongs?

Isn’t this damaging to your argument though? If Ephesians 2:4-6, Colossians 3:1, and Romans 5:17 are all talking about a current reality for people who are alive and if Revelation 20:4 is only depicting those who are physically martyred then that’s a leap. I think your argument would be much...

What about believers who die of natural causes? Are they just not being depicted in Revelation 20:4?

Hey Marty, I don’t know what the percentage is of believers that are literally beheaded vs those who die other ways including natural causes but I’m pretty sure it’s very low. Many people try to used the word “beheaded” to mean martyrdom in general but that doesn’t fit the definition. The word...

Ok, this is where I’m not seeing eye to eye with you. If “until” doesn’t mean when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, then why would Luke 17:30-31 say the Son of man is revealed? 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 31 In that day, he which shall be upon...

My whole point was that some Jews were still under the old covenant, notice I said nothing about it being a choice or not. You on the other hand apparently think they couldn’t have made a choice to remain under the old covenant. Hmmm, no free will for the Jews, interesting. No matter, you...

You left out Acts 21:18 And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. And Acts 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; James and all the elders were there, they are the ones who asked Paul to take the...

What do you think is going on in Acts 21:20? Acts 21:20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: Here you have Jews which believed but were still zealous for...

Not so, Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. When Hebrews was written the old covenant had not yet vanished.

I don’t agree with this statement, Israel in unbelief is referring to Jews who were still under the old covenant. 2 Corinthians 3:14-16 14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in...

I agree that there is only one true Israel but a distinction is still being made between Jew and Gentile else you couldn’t have blindness in part happening to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. If there was no distinction then Romans 11:25-27 would say believers shouldn’t be...

I personally don’t think the millennium is in view in Romans 11 anymore. I did see it that way but now I lean more towards the preterist side of things. In Romans 11:27 it says For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. I think what’s in view is the covenants. The...