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I gave an answer to your question here Keraz but it was deleted by Admin as inappropriate. Hmmmm, I wonder what triggered that?

'The flesh'..he was just referring to is not his literal flesh but rather his reality. It is his grace which sustains us. Another metaphor is 'bread' ie, he is the bread of life.

You have set yourself up for a terrible deception Keraz. Of course you will deny it because of the pride that accompanies your reluctance to see anything apart from your own view. You have sold objectivity for subjectivity.

I guess if setting out on a voyage in an unseaworthy vessel doesn't matter to you or if you are content to build your house on sand, you will inevitably discover the nature of its integrity when the weather gets rough.

In that case I would ask you to join the dots well.

The inhabitants of the Universe are witnesses singing 'you are worthy' (Revelation 4:11, 5:9-10, 7:11-12) Why do they sing this? What is the backdrop that motivates this exuberance?

Didn't you say it's a love story? Love doesn't coerce.

G'day Frank Phillip Yancey's 'What's so amazing about Grace' and EGW's 'Desire of Ages' have been stepping stones of hope in my pilgrimage. What you have quoted above is worthy of reflection, it reminds me of Paul's words in Romans 8:35-39.... 'Who shall separate us from the love of Christ...

Here's something to consider marks.... A third of the angels sided with Lucifer and so did the inhabitants of Earth.....God allowed them , he didn't resist. What do you think would have happened had all the angels and other Worlds sided with Lucifer?

Yahweh or Jehovah? Yahwehvah? I knew the wafers, I mean wehvah's fitted somewhere! :ummm:

@marks ...Please make the effort and take the time to watch this presentation. Perhaps it will be insightful? https://www.rediscoveringgod.ca/post/191-a-messiah-that-would-not-die

@marks Here is the question again just so we don't loose track of it by having it morph into something else. 'What do you perceive the 'mission' of Jesus to ultimately be? I don't mean the side benefits we derive from it, I mean it's ultimate purpose?' Firstly, these first few immediate words...

The text is misunderstood. It is intended as a metaphor. Jesus clarifies this misunderstanding yet the misunderstanding is insisted on by Catholicism. Here it is underlined. You might want to refresh your memory from the preceding texts also John 6:53-65 53Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell...

@marks Here's my question again Tell me what you don't understand about it?

The gears in a vehicle are not the driver. It is the engine that drives. The engine can run but if the gears are not selected nothing moves. Expecting to move the vehicle solely by selecting gears is a fool's expectation.

John was a figure of Elijah.....he preached reform. It was in this sense that Jesus refers to John

Overcoming!...yes, overcoming the doubt that we are loved. Overcoming the default of looking to ourselves. Overcoming distrust.

Another digression... Be inspired. Turn up the volume