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I wonder if Jesus was yoked to humanity.

What does it mean to be Under the Law? Being under law means you are motivated by law (ie, fear of punishment) as opposed to being motivated by the knowledge that you are loved, that you are precious and that you are worth dying for.

Even as discouragement encroaches we persevere, sheeplike. Do not give up because some are difficult. There is no community that I know of where harmony is a given. There are lots of variables in any community. Here are some.... 1. Most struggle with maturity......are consumed by navel gazing...

With respect MB, you need to refresh your views by reading the Genesis record again.

Selfishness is what defines a sinner and we are saddled with this from birth. Any parent will tell you about the difficult nights of sleep they get when babies are small. We learn to modify the gime gime gime drive by clever approaches but the fundamental drive is still there.

Sounds like you have a day full of activity. Do you get any rest at all?

If folk are persuaded there is no validity to a point of view (in this case the Sabbath issue) then why get the knickers in a knot? If however folk are resisting that which is valid, push back is only the attempt to hide or find a scape goat.

Just ask any religious Jew, they kept tabs on it. There is no direction by either Jesus or the apostles to modify or have the seventh day sabbath abrogated. This practice has been done by tradition developed in later centuries. In fact those responsible (Ecclesiastical Rome) for its change...

Tell me Hobie, what do you do on the seventh day?

The question that arises is, who are we going to listen to? Is it Moses or is it Jesus...perhaps it's Elijah? Here is why I think Jesus trumps both Moses and Elijah... 1. On the mount of transfiguration where both Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus and the disciples, the voice from the cloud...

No doubt he was passionate about serving God however, it is you who is designating that murdering God's enemies was done at God's behest. You say I am offering no scripture, well here you have some..... Luke 6:35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them, expecting nothing in...

I am not portraying him as a rebel against God. I am portraying him as a man with like passions as us, not someone untouched with shortcomings. If you need to refresh yourself with the details of Elijah's story it would be helpful...and if you need to go back and read these posts to get...

Folk, even God's folk throughout history (both OT and NT) have like passions as we do. Yes, they were inspired. Yes, they acted in faith, Yes, they wrote as they heard and saw, Yes, they where God's instruments to lead an erring and rebellious people, yet in their faith, their position of trust...

It may have gone outside of HOW the Bible is heard by many but I don't think it's gone outside of Jesus.....and isn't Jesus the only eyewitness of God?.....and doesn't the voice on the mountain tell us who to listen to....even while Moses and Elijah are present? The thought of even considering...

The word of God is Jesus....confuse it with the text of Hebrew history and it only reveals one's inability to think well!

I ask myself, would Jesus have sanctioned Elijah's slaughter? I would have to say no. God who does not change; Jesus who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow is the litmus test I use to get clarity on these accounts of violence, tacitly or overtly being sanctioned by God. Satan endeavours...

Elijah didn't create the fire. It was God who honoured his faith by sending the fire to consume the sacrifice. However, the slaughter of the prophets of Baal was the result of Elijah's presumption. Elijah went too far engaging the slaughter.

There are accounts we read about in the bible and assume them to be God sanctioned. I think that assumption is in error. For instance, we have Elijah, one of the greatest prophets who turned Israel from the worship of Baal back to God yet after that spectacular fire from heaven he went and...

I think Babylon is that seductive element (wine ie, teachings) which peddles the image of righteousness yet is anything but. We can apply it to secular systems as well as religious. We can apply it to oppressive Cities or Countries in many parts of the World. Revelation 11:8 uses the metaphor...

Do you think he meant that by selling their garment to buy a sword meant they were to go garment-less, in other words, no clothes aka as naked? I'm sure you wouldn't draw that conclusion Deb. So we must ask, did he mean a bladed weapon with which to harm people with? What do you think? ...and...