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  1. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Indeed, check out Paul - Rom 14:5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
  2. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Wrong guess, I feel secure. You are not good reading my mind. No, do I have to? No. Do I have to believe it? Yes. Literal reading is all what is needed. If Jesus says - I and the Father are one I believe it literally, Him claiming divine and I don't pick up stones. If Isaiah (800 BC)...
  3. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    John 10:17 For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. John 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my...
  4. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @face2face and @APAK No refutation seen on Isa 9:6 Christ did not literally descend from heaven! - copyright @face2face Denial to the power of 10.
  5. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Do tell.
  6. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Like Isa 9:6 perhaps? For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, // Matt 28:18, 1 Cor 15:24-28 and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Matt 28:18 And Jesus came and said to...
  7. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Just curious about your opinion on John 3:13, do you like F2F also agree that - Christ did not literally descend from heaven! ?
  8. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    When you quote don't stop in the middle of the story, when the answer to the question is given in the next verses, thus - Jes 6:6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me, having in his hand a burning coal that he had taken with tongs from the altar. Jes 6:7 And he touched my mouth and said...
  9. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I prefer you fry and serve us french fries with sweet mayonnaise. Yummy....
  10. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Sure, fry us :Broadly:
  11. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    By your own admission Jesus and the Holy Spirit are two separate Beings and They are ONE. You are making progress.
  12. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    2 Cor 10:5 We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ, I like this verse, daily many thoughts enter our brain from all kind directions, in this forum we receive thoughts from others. Paul says capture them and...
  13. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Oh Face.... what happened 30 years ago that makes you now say stupid things like this. John 3:13 - No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. 3 verses later - John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in...
  14. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Yes.
  15. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I often do myself.
  16. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Am I talking to a layman in Scripture? Jesus existed before creation (John 17:5 and other passages), how can He be a human ? Now please answer the question with a clear yes or no or undecided, can you do that? John 3:13 - No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven...
  17. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Gotquestions seldom disappoints.
  18. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    And now you successfully ducked the original question you (and no one) can possibly answer, only believe. You are a smart guy with decent Scriptural knowledge and I have a hard time to believe you missed the dilemma you are facing. Now please answer the question with a clear yes or no or...
  19. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    It's NOT a doctrine - John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. "Denial ain't just a river in Egypt." - Mark Twain
  20. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Nah. No, you are calling, not Paul. Sorry, I apologize.