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You really into works

I dont know what you talking about friend.

Read the thread points I have made. Christs death accomplished Salvation, Atonement for them He died for.

I understand that Christs Death accomplished Salvation and saved all the elect of God like God purposed.

Read the thread.

I have engaged with you before, if you want more engagement read the thread points.

You still dont get it.

Thats false teaching, not worth debating

Is it anything else you want to discuss from the OP ? Or Post 521, its points ?

Again to say Christ died for all mankind is false teaching, not even worth debating

Once you said Christ died for the sins of the whole world, false teaching began, the rest of what you have to say is worthless.

He is the Author of our Salvation/ Obedience ! For all whom He died, Christ is the Author of their Salvation, that's why they are obeying Him Heb 5:9 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey[or are obeying] him; And so He is the Author of...

You still dont get it, this isnt about post salvation works, this is about if someone conditions their salvation on something they do, meaning that God doesnt save you until you do something, meet a condition like believing, repentance, water baptism etc, that constitutes salvation by works, and...

That's fine my friend, but be cautioned because as stated you appear to be conditioning salvation on your works!

lol, Again if you or anyone else condition their salvation on something they do, like believing, repentance, water baptism, any little thing, that constitutes a departure from Salvation by Grace, and we are in danger of evidencing that we are under the curse of the Law.

Doesnt matter your spin on it, if you or anyone, myself included, conditions Salvation on something we do, its salvation by works, and that constitutes a repudiation of Salvation by Grace, and we are in danger of being under the curse of the law.

Appears to me you believe in Salvation by works, conditioned on man. May God have mercy on you friend.

johann No, this thread is about them who condition salvation on what they do. They promote salvation by works which denies Grace.

If you dont, dont sweat it. My statement is for anyone who bases their salvation on something they did, believing, repenting, obedience, water baptism, then they are trusting in their works.

Yes Faith is a work, believing is an act of man, and if you condition your salvation on it, your act, then you are trusting in your works, no way around it, you deny grace !