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If you condition your salvation on something you do, its works salvation, regardless of what you say you do not believe in.

Rom 8:32; Jn 3:16 Rom 8:32 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Jn 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have...

Anytime you make something you do, the bases for God saving you, its works.

You sound confusing. Its simple, If you condition salvation on anything you do, its works, meritorious. You appear to condition your salvation on your act of accepting a gift, then Im here to tell you, thats works.

If your act of receiving is what gave you the benefit of salvation, then your act of receiving became the meritorious cause of your salvation.

Like I said, you are saying your act of receiving is what gives you the benefit of the gift, thats works. I believe and scripture teaches that I receive the Gift of Salvation because God gave it, in other words God giving me the Gift and me receiving it are one and the same. Jn 3:27 27 John...

See you saying in essence its your act of receiving that made the difference in receiving the benefit of the gift. Again thats works

Sorry but it is works salvation. If you condition salvation on anything you do, it defaults to works, and you may as well kiss Salvation by Grace through Faith good by !

This is promoting salvation by works, by conditioning salvation on what man does.

Again, you can spin it anyway you want, bottom line, if you condition salvation on anything you did, its promoting salvation by works and forsakes Grace Salvation.

It doesnt matter how you spin it, if one says getting saved is conditioned on my faith and or believing, its a work merit salvation we promote, and void of grace.

Faith becomes a work, a meritorious work at that whenever its taught that Christ died for everyone, yet nobody is actually saved by that, His death merely made getting saved available or possible, but when someone adds their work of Faith or believing, that made them saved ! These will say...

Again Faith/Believing is something we do, so by definition its a classified work, so, if you or I say we are saved because of our act of believing, thats advocating salvation by our works.

Christ's Glory Given ! All for whom Christ died, to the exclusion of not one, have been given by Him Glory, in the form of a Promise Note Jn 17:20-22 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou...

Sorry, Faith is a work, a believing act !

Faith is a work, the act of believing is something done by the person. So for instance, if you insist God saved you from your sins because of your act of faith or believing, you are trusting in your works, on something you did, its as simple as that friend. Only when Faith is acknowledged to...

stunnedbygrace I have mentioned it a many of times, faith comes from grace, its not of oneself, but if you disagree and make faith/trust as something you did, apart from grace, then you are promoting salvation by your works, your act out of the flesh.

Thats Gods work to equip men to teach His word for His People to learn. Eph 4:8-15 8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10...

Thats fine, most people do, yet I see it as a disagreement with the testimony of scripture, that Salvation is by Grace apart from the works of men. All was conditioned on Jesus Christ, and He accomplished it and applies it to all for whom He died, and as a result they believe.

My Testimony is that Salvation is by Grace apart from the works of men. But as soon as you condition Salvation on anything you do, believe, repent, obey , you then condition salvation on man and what he does, that's apostacy from Grace friend.