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I want to add to the above in light of recent revelations. Some of you may be aware of this and quietly going about your business not wanting to make waves. What I'm going to say is going to ruffle many feathers. Your military (in the US) is being told by their commanders that they are...

God's promises were conditional. Israel never met those conditions.

You are accusing me of lying by saying Paul affirmed there was to be no third temple? Where did I say that? What I am saying is that you have no foundation for creating an entire thesis on the belief that there is going to be one. Particularly when the temple Paul mentioned is the temple of...

The current support for Israel is perplexing. Religion in Israel is held by a minority. Rabbis do not learn their craft from Torah. The text book for Rabbis even from the time of Jesus was not Torah based. Today's "Judaism" is the modern Phariseeism. Any Christian support for them is highly...

Ribera and Bellarmine both taught of a future physical temple in Jerusalem with am antichrist individual occupying. Today you are right, not so much. But they don't have to. The job is done. Protestant historicism, identifying the papacy as the Antichrist and the mark of the beast being the...

Also early in the fourth century Cyril of Jerusalem (318-386 A. D.)had this to say: “But this aforesaid Antichrist is to come when the times of the Roman Empire shall have been fulfilled, and the end of the world is drawing near. There shall rise up together ten kings of the Romans, reigning in...

Who said anything about a false Messiah? The man of sin is just that. The personification of lawlessness, the mystery of iniquity. The fulfillment of Daniel 7's little horn who thinks to change times and laws. God's laws. As for 2 Thess. 2:4... 1. Now we beseech you brethren, by the...

You have summed up my potential response fairly well. However, I would take it a step or two further. Most people on this forum know me as a Seventh Day Adventist. And most of them are aware of adventist eschatology, and for those who aren't, allow me to enlighten them. In 1864 the church was...

@Davy “3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the...

No, although of like you to qualify what you mean by partial preterist. Did you miss the but where i said that the Protestant reformers had already proved that the Catholic system is the Antichrist (some said the pope, others said the church, but they were learning new things as the Holy...

No, although I'd like you to qualify what you mean by partial preterist. Agreed. The system of Catholicism, incorporating its dogmas and traditions and many of its laws, is undoubtedly antichrist, but just in nature, but in eschatological and prophetic reality. Well, depends on what sense you...

I think I made that point. It is apostate American Protestantism that has embraced Catholic counter Reformation theology and using eschatological delusions (3rd temple, an individual antichrist sitting in that temple etc etc all seen as necessary prerequisites to the second coming) that is...

For over 200 years, the Protestant reformers had been proving from scripture and from history that the papal church of Rome was the Antichrist, the man of sin, and the little horn of Daniel 7. As a result of this, the Catholic Church was leaking members and financial support like a burst water...

Some of what you have said I agree with, while some is affected by dispensational teachings. The most serious aspect of the current American prophetic dispensation focus is that Israel dominates the vision to the exclusion of a more accurate prophetic view that is taking place under American...

Let not anyone forget Who is in charge, and what His principle goal is. God is in control. It is He that takes down kings and sets them up. That includes Trump, Netanyahu, and whoever is in charge of Iran, Saudi, UAE, and everywhere else. And that control began at creation and hasn't waned...

Why does everything have to revert to hatred? Cannot we disagree with someone else's premises and principles without being constantly accused of hatred? Stop buying into left wing politics.

But for dispensationalism, the current war would not be. Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham...

And yet , the above having been said, I am still a Trinitarian, but a begotten Son in eternity, before the creation of all things, does not and cannot harmonize with creedal trinitarianism. Another reason I cannot agree with the creeds, is that they unite the Father, Son, and Spirit in such...

True. And as much as I love my fellow adventist here and respect immensely his scholarship and passion for our faith, I have what I believe to bevalid reasons for tending more toward the pioneer view with a couple of changes. The Son is absolutely the equal to His Father in every respect...

I don't know if @Ronald Nolette d is still around, but I have a note regarding his comment above. While it is true that Adam sinned, and while it is true that most of the Christian Church believes in the immortality of the soul, I would ask that if the wages of sin is death, then the death...