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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    If a rapture was indeed the actual reward for this early church’s faithfulness, then, why did they not experience it? After all, they are commended for being obedience and faithfulness. You cannot divorce the reward from the obedience that earned the reward here. Pretribs say the reward is the...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    LOL. You are simply exposing yourself and your faulty doctrine by your avoidance. This is the story of every single discussion with pretribs.
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Once again, as is your pattern, you totally avoided every single argument. You have to! That's because your doctrine is an invented Jesuit myth.
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    There is a reason why you continually avoid. There is a reason why you have no rebuttal to it.
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I did. You're just being obtuse. You are avoiding it because it exposes your error. Your doctrine and is in tatters. It is totally dead. You've no answer to the truth.
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    You avoided it then and you avoid it now. You have to! You have no answer to the truth.
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    Will Christ utter new words in a Premil millennium?

    Why worry? It will never happen! We are in Rev 20 now.
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Hello! Read it and you will see. Each cycle finishes with a different camera view of the one and only future coming of Jesus Christ. Each focuses on a different aspect of that climatic event or different entities. They show the rescue of God’s people, the destruction of the wicked, and the end...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Ephraem, Nisibis, Syria, (AD 306-373) On the Last Times, the Antichrist and the End of the World Section 2 We ought to understand thoroughly therefore, my brothers, what is imminent or overhanging. Already there have been hunger and plagues, violent movements of nations and signs, which have...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Cyprian, Bishop of Carthage, North Africa, (AD 200-258) On The Mortality (or Plague) Chapter 25 And this, as it ought always to be done by God's servants, much more ought to be done now— now that the world is collapsing and is oppressed with the tempests of mischievous ills; in order that we...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I do not typically respond to much of the nonsense that you find on some of these online videos. But, because the early Church fathers were brought into the equation, I feel compelled to respond. That is just in case someone believes the lies that are being perpetrated here. I will address some...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Again, no answer to the truth! Typical!
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    CYCLE 4 (received in heaven) The Church and its onslaught from the devil (Ch 12) including a parallel view of the beast’s (the world anti-Christ system – intra-advent) persecution of the elect (Ch 13) and the simultaneous joy of the redeemed (Ch 14) in heaven (Ch 12-14). Revelation 14:14-20...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    There are several recaps in Revelation that cover the same last days intra-Advent era and that culminate with the one final future climactic return of Christ. The detail is the same. The only way you can deny the correlation and comparison between the 7 trumpets and the 7 vials is bias theology...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I will give you 15 solid reason why this reasoning is ridiculous and should be swiftly rejected. (1) The word “Church,” as in the elect redeemed (born again) Church, is not mentioned anywhere in Revelation. There are only references to the local churches (which includes saved and unsaved) in...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    You make it up as you go. Revelation 3:7-13: “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; I know thy works: behold, I have set...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    LOL. So you have nothing? You are building a major doctrine on thin air. This is what we have been saying you years. You argue that the absence of any mention of "the Church" between Revelation 4 - 19 proves they is no Church on earth. But you have no mention of the Church in Revelation 4...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    And where exactly is your supposed future rapture in Revelation? You stating something means nothing.
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The whole thing is an invented Jesuit joke!