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No. Righteousness has already been given a a gift. As I've said to you many times. Obedience is the fruit of the presence of Christ in the heart. Obedience is mandatory because God is entitled to be obeyed. He is God. If He isn't your Lord, and you think God's commandmentsare merely...

Hold on a minute. I asked a simple question. Is it obligatory to obey God's commandments or not?

Night view of Thessalonica from the exclusive suburb of Panorama. Thessaloniki, Greece. Photo taken in 2006. (Photo credit: Wikipedia) In Sabbath school a number of years ago we were discussing Paul's missionary endeavours to the city of Thessalonica (now known as Thessaloniki) and attempting...

You disagree with that?

Interesting tack you are taking here. You are writing a lot of words, but saying very little. We are all aware of the many in all churches, including your own, that attend church and go through the motions without any conversion experience. They have a form of godliness, but their hearts are...

Why do you read only half my posts?

Nothing of what you have said counters or contradicts the born again experience. All you are doing is adding fluff in an attempt to deviate people away from the main issue. People need a change of heart. A change of mind. True repentance. A turning away from the world in mindset and...

Why are you so determined to blame the law for your sin? All I read from you is a deflection of responsibility. You and I are sinners, and we were sinners long before the law confirmed it. You are a sinner because you sin. And you sin because you inherited a carnal nature from Adam. Which...

First, nowhere did I suggest that I had to obey all the commandments in order to "prove" I am righteous. I would like a reference to my post stating that. Second, I agree with you that the commandments as Paul said, are holy.just, and good. They are after all, a transcript of the character...

You are so focused on critiquing Seventh Day Adventism, you are deaf to what I'm saying. Read again my post on a previous page regarding 3 spiritual laws that govern life. It's basically a summary of the gospel as portrayed by Paul in Romans 8. You question that we should find the need to...

Your attempts to play down what Jesus said was absolutely essential for one to understand and enter into the kingdom of God is because you don't have the faith that God could do that for you if you asked, yet He promised the holy Spirit to all who would ask. Does a father refuse good gifts to...

In the sense that we cannot gain righteousness through obedience to the law, then yes, I agree. Righteousness comes by faith. But what does righteousness look like in a practical sense...it looks like love, and love is the fulfilment of the law. Any obedience we may have does nothing to...

I agree. BUT, the law is personified in Christ. It is Christ Himself Who comes and abides in our hearts and minds. It is His righteousness, His holiness that we embrace as we die to self. All by faith in Him. Righteousness by faith. Obedience is the fruit of the relationship we have with...

No, no. The commandment merely informed Paul of his sin. It didn't cause the sin. Paul caused the sin by succumbing to lust. But he didn't know until he read the law. Again no. The husband is not a metaphor for the law. It's a metaphor for the old man. We die to sin. We die to the old...

What did they never explain?

I understand that. Get it totally. It's a shame that so many have suffered from such a deceptively warped view of the gospel.

Again, I disagree. Sinful passions are aroused through our own fleshly lusts. What the law does is reveal it to us who are blind to the reality of sin because of the deceptive nature thereof.

That is true. So, coming to realisation of our weakness, what then is the solution?

It's ironic that Jane asked who taught me, then presented an exclusive position taught by Watchtower. No personal testimony by which to ascertain ether the taught doctrine can be displayed, experienced, or presented. I was taught by Jesus. My introduction to Christianity wasn't through the...

"There is no condemnation for them who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. "