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How many "living parts" of the dead Jesus (Rev. 1:18; 2:8) do you think there were after he was killed, and where do you think each of them was? I have heard many stories about it, all of them based on some weird interpretations of a couple of verses ... and I am very interested in counting how...

He did not say: "One part of me was dead". He said: "I was dead". What do you think he meant?

Well, first thing: when Jesus said these things: Rev. 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and behold, I am alive for evermore (...) 2:8 (...) These things saith (...) which was dead, and is alive. What did he mean when saying he WAS DEAD? The resurrected Jesus, now in heaven, is talking...

What Jesus said DOES NOT depend on what people believes about the death. Did the disciples of Jesus believe the same Jesus said about being dead those three days? ... that he was just not alive somewhere else?

What the disciples of Jesus believed while he was dead?

What did the disciples believe while Jesus was dead? :cry:

That is the question: what do you think it happens when Jesus died? Let's talk about it ... Please use the Scriptures in a smart manner, and use the logic in your argument, so we understand clearly what you believe and how you try and prove it with the Bible. I think that when Jesus died...

In the imagination of some, Jesus was somewhere dealing with the suffering of not having a body of flesh, and his disciples believed that... so according to that fantasy, the disciples were suffering that Jesus did not have a body because of that so he couldn't talk to them. At the third day he...

The disciples needed to know Jesus was back to life; not that he got the same body of flesh. They did understand that. 1 Tom. 6:13 I charge thee in the sight of God, who giveth life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed the good confession; 14 that thou keep...

I guess you can't get rid of your accusations and straw dolls ... Can you answer what I just asked in the last post, or that's all? ... I do not want to loose time reading nonsenses and diversions of the thread. It feels like I am answering to a bot ... Mmmmh; NO, good bye guy.

Of course I did. And there is anything there I should see in particular? It didn't change what Jesus said at all. Read this: (KJV) Rev. 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen (...) What do you think Jesus meant when he said "I was dead"? Here with...

So? Don't you believe that to rise from the dead is to make live someone who is dead, like Jesus said in John 11:25? o_O

Of course, he got flesh and bones at that moment ... but not always; only when he was manifest, remember? Acts 10:40,41 :) Judges 13 has a very interesting account about an angel in human body. I hope you don't believe angels have bodies of flesh.:rolleyes:

Mmmh. I disagree. He was not always visible to them, so they did not conclude what you are saying. It is just an elaboration of your imagination, but not the real events. I think they knew exactly what was happening, since they knew about what angels did in the past and no one thought angels...

To rise from the dead is to give life to what is dead. John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live. Being dead is the contrary to being alive. Don't you know that?

I only saw accusations. Do you need an answer to what question? :) Did you read those passages I mentioned to you? When Jesus said: "Look, a spirit has not flesh and bones ...", he was scaring them away, showing them the body he had at that moment. Do you think that the angels who appeared to...

"God telling lies"? Mmmh, I got you, trying to build a straw doll based on false accusations ... Read these passages: 1 Tim. 3:16; Heb. 5:7; 9:14; 1 Cor. 15:44-49; 2 Cor. 5:16. After reading those passages, tell me: who is lying?

A spirit is invisible ... How would they know? :) There are a lot of biblical statements about the body Jesus has after his resurrection. Some of you who think he has a human body up there ... Funny to think about it. I imagine that resurrected Jesus of you like an astronaut.

The marks he showed Thomas were to convince him that it was himself. Do you think that if it had been the same body, Thomas would not have recognized him simply by seeing his face?

Because the disappearance of the body from the place where it was before, would give them the exact idea of Jesus' resurrection. That does not mean at all that Jesus had returned to that body to occupy it. Do you really think that Jesus would return to a physical body so battered by the...